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OK Babz, let's keep this thread going.
This is not a really new purchase, but today I realised I don't have any photos of it, or posted them online.
This was on special for 130Euro about 18 months ago. Didn't need it, didn't run much in my prototype area, impulse purchase, but it is my era 3a, and it is a nice model...
It is the three car Vt 12 unit from Roco, catalogue 63132.....

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I think everyone needs one !

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How interesting Babz, I went to South Lancing Primary School between 1959 and 1963.
In those days it had a thriving British Railways (Southern Region) Carriage Works - their open days were amazing and helped to sow the seed of railway disease.
A long way from beautiful Bulli NSW.
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Hello Babz,
Look, this will be a guide/guess, and I assume these wagons are marked up for somewhere in the 1924-28 era (it will be important just to check these dates on the wagons - get your magnifying glass out !).
In Germany at least, the route at this time looks like being Strasbourg - Kehl - Karlsruhe - Pforzheim - Stuttgart - Crailsheim - Nurnberg - Marktredwitz - Schirnding - Cheb. In the text it says that the two extra cars were added at Stuttgart (did these come from somewhere else, I wonder?).
So cutting this up into the logical Laenderbahn sectors, you could say that it was likely that a former Baden Pacific IVf or IVh could be used from Kehl to Pforzheim (or possibly Stuttgart, I'm not sure how picky they were at State borders in the 1920's). I think most of the IVh class were stationed at Offenburg after delivery so this would be logical.
For a prestige train like this, they'd want to use their best engines, so for the Wuerttemberg part, I'd say an 18.1 would be appropriate, possibly piloted by a T5 (75.0) for the initial stage out of Stuttgart. The 18.1 would stay with the train to Crailsheim, where likely a 18.4 or 18.5 would be the train engine. Probably anything from series a-f or h-k might be suitable - series k was delivered in 1923 or so. I have all the dates for these but I can't lay my fingers on the exact book at the moment, so I may change this.
The 18.4 or 18.5 would then likely take the train to Marktredwitz (possibly a change in Nurnberg). You could have engines with Bavarian numbers to 1926 when they were renumbered - so there are heaps of detail possibilities. It's also worth noting that three of the original series of Br 01 were delivered to Hof in 1926 as 01 005,6,7 so even these could be possible here for the run to/through Nurnberg.
These years were a time of great change : livery, numbers, nationalisation, so a lot of stuff could happen, however with this stock I reckon you want to keep it all pre-1930 maybe - and I don't know that much about earlyish Ep II. Maybe Marktredwitz to Schirnding could be a 38 even !!!
In short, there are a lot of possibilities, but they are not completely random... However, at 3.30am, unable to access my stuff for fear of waking others, it's the best I can do off the top of my head..
Interesting question, many possibilities, hope these are some ideas.
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Hi Babz,
Too kind

The Fleischmann loco you illustrate represents the 18.6 class. This class was introduced in the early 1950s, they were rebuilds of the series' l to o built during the 1920s (18.509 - 18 548). These locos would not have hauled your train. The Roco model is beautiful. 18 417 was built in 1911 (part of series c).
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Even though Matrix are bringing out a new version, there's nothing wrong with the Roco one...



This is the Epoche 3a version (last one was withdrawn in 1955). They also did Ep 1 and Ep 2 versions.. and a special Wuerttemberg wagon set, which we have discussed on other threads.
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I just re-read my last post - and I notice it didn't make much sense ! and I should have said that the Roco engine is absolutely ideal for your rolling stock
. It is a lovely engine.
Just keep the 18.6 away from the stock.
When I said QUOTE These locos would not have hauled your train. - the statement referred to the engines of the class 18.6 and not 18 417 !!
Sorry Babz, for the confusion, it was 3am and one of the cats was scratching at my door to be let out.
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Hi Babz,
I really think that the Roco loco you picture is from the pre-1914 era, so not quite exact for the blue coaches, although it would 'do' from a distance.
If you really want a green one, I would definitely say that the Fleischmann loco 411902 would be a better fit if you want it exact. This loco is one of series 'k', delivered in November/December 1923. Also it is a model of loco 3687 (later 18 486) and after delivery it was allocated directly to Nuremberg Hbf so would almost certainly have pulled your train at some stage (I would bet my house on it). Moreover, the Fleischmann loco is finished in the in the running condition from 1924 or so, so really exact - the Trix coaches they say are 1924-1928.
This would be a really cute match.
Hope this helps.
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Have a look at this page..
http://www.eisenbahnjahre.de/fleischmann-s...ltung-bayern-h0
 

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For the life of me I cannot see the difference between 411902 and 411972, no problem, if you have this loco it is perfect as mentioned above, right engine, right time for the coaches.
I actually have a picture of this loco (3687) hauling a Berlin express in 1925. I also have a photo of a Nuremberg 18.4 hauling the exact Paris-Karlsbad-Prague express near Schnabelwald, close to where the junction to Bayreuth is, just after the Pegnitztal.. However, this photo is 1935 and by this time the new generation of CIWL coaches are making up the train.
As we all discussed above, the Roco loco 18.417 is also good, but 3687 is absolutely perfect.

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This is not a new wagon, but it is my first serious attempt at putting on some 'weathering'... probably amateurish, but I didn't want to go overboard..



Makes me feel as if it's a new wagon anyway...

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Here is a strong 'red/black' for you Babz.
This class was all over Bavaria, maid of all work.



None were preserved, however, when they were rebuilding Treuchtlingen station a few years ago, in preparation for a high speed line, they uncovered this.....



Part of a 54.15 class loco subject to a direct hit, and consigned to the bottom of a crater in 1944. The only memory we have of this really useful class.

The remains are at the Bavarian Railway Museum in Noerdlingen - if you have never been to Noerdlingen, go, its the best town in the world for sure.
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Adrian,
I grew up with boxer dogs, they are utterly brilliant.
This is not exactly a new purchase, but it is very nice. It is the Trix Telegraphentransport set (cat 24041).



and when you put it in a train it looks like this - stakes in. Need to stain the frame holding the cable drums though, and also the telegraph poles themselves..



It is marked up for the 1954/55 era, epoche IIIa, so just right for my interests. The load for this Trix set was contract manufactured by a company called Heico, which I think ended up under some kind of Hornby control and therefore swept under the carpet.

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Hi Reddo,
The green addition is just a Fleischmann Bavarian origin Packwagen (cat 5090-02), also dated for Epoche IIIa, I put this in to make the formation more prototypical, because it could obviously double as a 'Mannschaftswagen'.
Glad you like it, with the stakes in, it looks the bizzo. I paid 56Euro for it, new.
The background scenery here is the Vollmer 'Schongau' set, cat 6110.
I'm not really anal or anything, but in the scene below, 98 810 was/is a Bw Schongau (BD Augsburg) based loco (Fleischmann cat 409803)!!
The Packwagen is also BD Augsburg AU 116 659
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Nice one, Tonkatoy, it looks great.
The 01 is a perfect accompaniment, as it was normally a Wurzburg 01 that took the train from Bebra through to Treuchtlingen, where the dreaded electrics took over for the remainder of the trip to Munich (via Augsburg).
Now all you need is the Henschel Wegmann Gegenzug (Sometimes referred to as HWGZ in articles).
If you can still find it, Liliput set 350031 is a replica of this train. One restaurant car, 2 blue F-zug wagons plus the salon wagon and observation car. There are also nice pictures on the net with these cars with an 01 !!
A V200 is also good for the Henschel Wegmann, sort of late 50's timespan with this stock but make sure it is one of the first series with D E U T S C H E B U N D E S B A H N along the side.
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Hi Adrian,
If you look for trix 23858, which is actually a Epoche 3a set, it has a model of the Pw09 that you need. Pretty sure they have been released by Brawa and Roco as well, and maybe Ep I for you.
Little bird-cage on the top, lovely.
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PS If you go to the ETS website, they may have more copies of 'Schwaebisch Eisenbahn' from the Verlag Gebruder Metz, published in 1989, ISBN 3-921580-78-1
You should have this book for sure - only 10-15 Euro
 

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Hi Reddo,
I think you'll find that the Ferien Express coaches are Epoche 3a, and are probably marked up for 1953/4/5 or something like that. It would be nice to see it first hand to check the dates and to make sure the interiors match up ok.
These are the gambles we make from afar....
I have ordered the DB version of the Brawa 38.4 - after looking at it longingly since it came out and never being able to afford the 370 Euro, to see it come down to 240 Euro is a big reduction, so a no brainer for me.
In actual fact the Ferien Express may be a good match for this loco. Need first hand info to tell.
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Hi John and Babs,
Just to embellish John's detailed posting....
Most of their duties involved banking trains up long and difficult gradients, fine examples of which are :
The Spessartrampe - hence the locos were stationed at Aschaffenburg
The Frankenwaldbahn - where the locos were stationed at Pressig-Rothenkirchen (these locos probably did time on the Schiefe Ebene as well)
The Eger-As (-Oberkotzau -Hof) incline - where locos were stationed at Eger/Cheb.
In darker times I believe some members of the class were even sent to work the 1 in 33 incline out of Liege to keep chains of supply running smoothly.
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