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Hi Just Received These from MSL today the SBB Die Post wagons are Really Nice More Die Post wagons to Follow In Week50/51. Babs





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Really love your collection Great Pic's Babs
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Patience and vigilance is rewarded - these two deep well wagons from Rocky Rail arrived at MSL in the last week or so and now they've reached me
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If you look closely you will see that the trailer is a different design to the one produced by Roco. It's nice to have some variety and both types and these particular trailers can be seen in videos of Brenner Pass freight in recent years.





David
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Nice - and very timely David. I saw a huge consist of these when I went up to Berlin last week...

I think you are going to cost me a few $$$ this weekend David...
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Well, shifting back from Epoch 6 to Epoch 3a, I noticed that Hattons had some Liliput stock going relatively cheaply. Moreover I noted that these were the DRG-built Abteilwagen and a nice Packwagon from Baden times.
Unbelievably, the whole shipment of 5 wagons + postage cost only about 150AUD.
As with 'early China' Liliput, the mouldings are a bit crude, but the roof vents are free-standing, door handles and grab rails are free-standing if a little chunky.
The detailing is exact for the timescale I am interested in, and well, they look the part. I have several photos from the 1952-54 period that feature these coaches as part of the train in my area of interest, and they were broadly distributed on the DB.
This is an overview of all 5 pieces (although it would have been rare to see them in the same train.



Here is the Pw



You can see the crudish moulding here, but also the nice detailing, this wagon was obviously refurbished at AW Karlsruhe after WWII, and it goes for its next check-up in September 1953



Here is a shot of the 3rd class wagon, showing the detail, the rivets, the door handles and grab rails.



Well pleased with not only the overall appearance, but also the price and the fact that it took less than a week to get to my door !

Cheers
6991
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QUOTE (reddo @ 10 Dec 2016, 15:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nice - and very timely David. I saw a huge consist of these when I went up to Berlin last week...

I think you are going to cost me a few $$$ this weekend David...

Sorry about that. I had better not post the short video of the train so far.
It's rather blurred because the auto focus couldn't cope so you're not missing much.

These trains are very wide spread. I saw one at Lund in Sweden during the summer - mostly Samskip trailers with a loco belonging to the Hector company.

One of the freights which often appears in Brenner videos has Lauritzen trailers which are Scandinavian. Closer examination of the other trailers on the train shows them to be from there too, so my guess is that there is a regular working from the far north down into Italy and perhaps beyond.

David
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Your EpIII set is very nice; while I am not a great fan of painting & weathering, these close up shots do highlight the bogie areas that could be really enhanced with some careful light tan wash eg on the springs and 'shackles'. Its a very nice set.

Re the pocketwagens thanks for the info; ironically I had spotted those Lauritzen trailer in one of the packs andput them on the wishlist for when the coffers are refilled.
This may be a while as I found a few things I also had on my Wishlist at the Ingolstadt train fair...it is on my other feed here...

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QUOTE (6991 @ 11 Dec 2016, 16:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Unbelievably, the whole shipment of 5 wagons + postage cost only about 150AUD.

Cheers
6991

Thanks for the close-ups.
The DRG versions have been floating around at reduced prices also. I might add a couple to fill out an order.
Hi Reddo, you said..
QUOTE Your EpIII set is very nice; while I am not a great fan of painting & weathering, these close up shots do highlight the bogie areas that could be really enhanced with some careful light tan wash eg on the springs and 'shackles'. Its a very nice set.

Firstly, thanks for liking them !
Secondly, I didn't mention in my previous post that the underframe detail is actually very good, the footboards, axle boxes, dynamo and belt etc are all quite nice. As you say, the springs, shackles and footboards all need a murky tan/brown, as this is what they all looked like in real life.
You get an overall idea here....



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6991
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Hi Everyone, Just Picked up a couple of these with Sound Hot from Teckwiss In St Gallen The Guy who Manufactures them Altered the Circuit Board so we could easily add Digital Uncouplers 2 Soldering Points It Is a Zimo Decoder and the first 2 I received which were SBB Versions were not easy to do. So after a Lot of help from Teckwiss they have now made it Standard.Hope you Like them Babs

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Hi Babs,
Oh my! Yes! I like that, rather a lot!
What a smashing little loco. I have to admit, I don't know much about Swiss railways but I do like the BLS, especially their wonderful old electric locos. I thought they had lost a lot of their character lately, with buying standard European designs.
I've never seen this one before, must pop over to RailfanEurope and read up on them.
Cheers,
John.
Very nice. One thing I am starting to miss is not being able to speak conversational German to any great depth. It would be most rewarding to have some technical discussions while at model shops or fairs.
QUOTE One thing I am starting to miss is not being able to speak conversational German to any great depth
Yes Reddo, this is a very useful skill. I think you should start by getting a picture-rich monthly, like the Eisenbahn Journal, and at least begin to understand some of the captions, translating them with a dictionary if necessary.
EJ is a lovely magazine and has all sorts of articles covering Epochs 1-6, the final third is all about modelling developments, so this should also resonate. If you are interested in the subject material the urge to understand is greater.
Secondly, it helps to listen to Schubert, I heartily recommend listening to his three song-cycles, with the words in front of you. You will begin to understand what a lovely, lyrical and poetic language German can be, and the German grammar is really good throughout, it helped me greatly in making the transition.
When you are visiting places like the Deutsche Museum or Verkehrsmuseum, tack on to a tour being conducted in German and connect the words with the things around you..
Go walking in the countryside, like I do, visit hostelries in small villages for lunch, eat local specialities, order in German.
Conversationally, I first realised I had made the transition to being a reasonably fluent speaker, ironically enough in the Bahnhofsgataette on Gleis 1 at Ingolstadt Hbf in April 2005, I had an hour between trains, this ultimately turned into a 3-hour lunchtime session with the locals who were eager to know who I was, what I was doing there and all that kind of stuff. When I had them in stitches laughing at a couple of stories, I realised I had made the transition.
You'll also know when you have arrived. These days I have no fear, I travel alone, vacation alone, I'm happy to sit on the Stammtisch and really like meeting the locals and getting their stories. I know I still make lots of grammatical errors, but invariably after 30 minutes to an hour, someone will invariably say 'and how do you come to speak such good German?', and this is always pleasing when you hear it.
Have a crack, Reddo.
Cheers
6991
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I learnt my German in bars. It is amazing how helpful a couple of beers can be. I have to admit that being married into a German family has helped but I have never managed to be as fluent with them as I can be in a bar.

The thing to remember about a Stammtisch is that you have to be invited to sit there.

Best regards .............. Greyvoices (alias John)
Ooh, the German language!
I am a very poor and hesitant speaker, I do try but often find that I freeze up over simple words.
6991 is quite right about reading the magazines and even, forums! I watch the EK and others videos/DVDs and I must admit, I do pick up more than I used to but it has taken me some ten years to get this far. In some ways, the power of the internet has slowed me down, "Google translate" does the work now and that makes me lazy plus, so many Germans are always so happy to practice their English!
It's weird, I can pick up the most basic phrases in many different languages but to go more complex takes quite a lot of effort however, when a local is impressed by your command of anything even basic stuff, the thrill is just brilliant.
John, currently studying Greek, German, Italian and a bit of Russian!
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Greyvoices, you wrote
QUOTE The thing to remember about a Stammtisch is that you have to be invited to sit there.
For me this was a massive honour the first time it happened, in Noerdlingen. I was having a quiet beer and the waitress came over and announced that the gentlemen on the Stammtisch would like to have the pleasure of my company I was like, 'WOW' !
These guys are like lifelong friends now, I have been back to Noerdlingen 4 times since then and it is now assumed that I will sit with them.
My last trip in September, I was also asked to be on the Stammtisch in Alpirsbach (Schwarzwald). There were different groups on the table each night, ranging from members of a local handball club, to workers from the brewery relaxing on a Thursday evening.
Awesome !
6991
Thanks for the feedback; I endeavor to do as much as possible as I do have a basic grounding in grammatical German from school, but while I am still translating in my head, the conversation has gone far ahead and words are lost on me. Assuming tisch = table, what is Stamm? I also know when you stop translating, your brain has finally converted; this was the case in France for me (wife's family is French but somehow French seems a little easier)

I am in Frankfurt now on the final leg of a business trip back to Munchenland; I will be picking up another EJ at the station as I buy it for the pictures and endeavour to get the gist of the article through the captions. Plus this month has a free DVD on Dampfloks. Cheers
Abstammung = heritage

Stamm = trunk (but it sort of means a connection to your roots)

Stammtisch = a table where people connected to this place can meet. The tradition element relates to the idea that they always have met here. It's a very male concept.

Hope this helps ........................ Greyvoices (alias Hans)
Well, its nearly Christmas













Hope Santa brings everyone something nice
Merry Christmas and Happy new year to all
Regards
Alan

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Wow, that's a nice looking set.
Thanks for having one of my favourite locos on the front, the 18.1, which itself would have been very relieved at heading off up the Remstalbahn towards Aalen and Nuremburg (rather than the more strenuous route up the Geislinger Steige).
Enjoy, cheers
6991
Jealous much, I am!!!
Seriously, that is a really lovely set and what a nice sound too.
I noticed on my Trix P10, the sound was very good too - I'm getting more impressed with Trix sound lately.
Cheers,
John.
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