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Adrian,
That's a fine looking loco and will look grand in front of your train. From the images I see, I think the green on the Liliput loco is much closer (than the Roco) to the preserved examples on display at the Bavarian Railway Museum Noerdlingen, and the Hochhaxige at the Transport Museum in Munich respectively. They are both 'must see' items if you are ever in Bavaria.
Best of luck and stay safe.
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Further to my post on the Heljan DSB IC3 unit, I have had to add the same modification I did to the Swedish version earlier. This mainly consists of replacing the little plastic 'pip' that acts as the bogie guide at each end of the powered car with a self-tapping screw (I use the ones that come with Oxford Diecast vehicles holding the cars/trucks/buses in the packaging). This prevents the bogies from lifting at the outer ends and derailing. I also add extra weight into the driving cars.

I did a quick video of the unit under test on Newton Broadway (running British Network South East and Railfreight at present), posted here on YouTube.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/BgWfLtCNXUc&ab_channel=JeffreyLynn?rel=0

Having trouble with the YouTube embedding, so here's the external link:
 

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That's a good looking model


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Hi SR man nice Modern train exscuse my ignorance is DSB Danish Railways. I am interested also in the light colour viaduct stone/ Brick what make are they i do need a couple like that.
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QUOTE (Babz @ 21 Jun 2020, 00:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi SR man nice Modern train exscuse my ignorance is DSB Danish Railways. I am interested also in the light colour viaduct stone/ Brick what make are they i do need a couple like that.
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Yes, DSB = Danske Statsbaner - Danish State Railways, in English.

The IC3 DMUs date from around 1989 onwards, I think. The livery is similar to the current one with minor differences in the logos and colour stripes next to the passenger doors, although many units still have this lime green colour in place. I need to add the yellow stripes over the first class section, as Heljan omitted those. Agnes and I travelled in the first class section on our Copenhagen to Hamburg journey in two of these units in 2018 (5058 and 5085), so I have pleasant memories of riding in these units.


P_20180924_180234_vHDR_On by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

The stone viaduct is not finished, but is the Wills kit with three arches plus one of the add-on arches. I really want to paint the stones properly but at this stage the color is just a light brown wash over the whole lot.
 

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Hi Alan & John, Very nice Rake of coaches, I did not go for them myself as i have two rakes of the BRAWA Reko versions which are a lot shorter and to me they would not look right together. nice models you have Enjoy.
I hope you are well and stay safe.
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I have been naughty again. Modellbahn Shop Lippe had a few specials and I succumbed to temptation. I have wanted a Vectron but all were too dear for me, until this one popped up for somewhat less than Eu100. It is from the Piko Expert range and uses a 22 pin PLuX decoder with separate control of the tail lights. The MGW livery is not particularly inspiring, but it's a choice of ths one or none with my already overspent budget. This is 193 845-5.


P_20200627_161808_vHDR_Auto by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

The other one that filled a gap for me was the Roco BR 232 Co-Co diesel electric in DB dark red livery with cream bands (was this a modern historic livery?). I have started adding handrails and steps, but have not added brake and air hoses yet until I work out the clearances for bogie and coupling swing. 232 238-6 uses a 16 pin PLuX decoder - I am trying out a D & H one, a brand I have not used before.


P_20200627_161635_vHDR_Auto by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
 

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QUOTE (SRman @ 27 Jun 2020, 16:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The other one that filled a gap for me was the Roco BR 232 Co-Co diesel electric in DB dark red livery with cream bands (was this a modern historic livery?)

This livery is the historic DR livery of the BR 130/132, but with the DB logo on it. It would have looked like that initially when the locos were taken over by Deutsche Bundesbahn in the early 90s and re-numbered. Many of the 132s were later re-liveried with the modern DB traffic red.

You can see the history of this specific loco, along with photos taken over the years, at http://br232.com/index.php?nav=1407400&amp...action=portrait.

Oh, and you won't be able to use the full brake and air hoses in combination with the couplers. I've got a similar Roco 132 and I tried. There are clipped versions included with the detail parts.
 

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QUOTE (Alex Hempel @ 29 Jun 2020, 09:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This livery is the historic DR livery of the BR 130/132, but with the DB logo on it. It would have looked like that initially when the locos were taken over by Deutsche Bundesbahn in the early 90s and re-numbered. Many of the 132s were later re-liveried with the modern DB traffic red.

You can see the history of this specific loco, along with photos taken over the years, at http://br232.com/index.php?nav=1407400&amp...action=portrait.

Oh, and you won't be able to use the full brake and air hoses in combination with the couplers. I've got a similar Roco 132 and I tried. There are clipped versions included with the detail parts.

Thanks for that information and link, Alex. I am still very much a novice with European railways in general (British excepted).

I had thought I would have to clip the brake pipes and things to allow for the coupling clearances. I have had to do the same with Heljan British locomotives as well. It is a compromise but looks better than bare buffer beams.

Looking quickly through the history, it looks like it retained this livery until after 2000, but was in DB red by 2004. The photographic history is great ... very useful.
 

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I bought another 'new' second-hand DB locomotive, a Roco BR 290. This is actualy quite an old model and was not DCC-ready, but has a massive central motor that runs very, very smoothly on DC. I suspect it was a basic train set model, but the detailing is not too bad and the grilles will benefit eventually from a few black washes to highlight them.

It took me a while to plan how to convert it to DCC while retaining the lights and the sprung brush feeds, because there is not a lot of spare room inside those bonnets, but I eventually decided to cut a section out of the non-brush end to seat a small but powerful TCS M4 decoder (a 2-function M1 would have sufficed but I only had the 4-function M4 available). The PCB tracks were cut with a slittling disc and various connections remade to allow track power to go to the decoder from both ends of the locomotive, plus connecting the blue positive return wire to the lights at both ends. Being bulbs, it didn't really matter which way round I did the polarity for the lights. I'm not sure which end of a 290 shoud be the No 1 end, but I chose to make the long bonnet the forward end.

Anyway, here is 290 125-4, put to work on the Continental-based Christmas (in July) train (which is purely a bit of whimsy).





 

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The BR 232 is indeed in the old DR colour scheme. One interesting thing about this one is that cream band on the side is narrower than at the front and back. This was done as a cost saving simplified colour scheme as previously the band was the same width as the front and back. In the late 90’s and early 2000’s these loco’s were cascaded down to being used with two coach local trains on many occasions,
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Thanks for the information, Simon. It is small details like the stripe thickness that I have not picked up at all from digging around the Internet. As I said, I am a novice when it comes to the European railways, but am slowly learning more and more. It doesn't help that I don't speak German, Danish or Swedish (which are the main ones I am interested in, although I do understand a lot more French), and Google Translator sometimes leaves a bit to be desired. There used to be a game where song lyrics were put through the translator from English to other languages a couple of times (try Japanese then German, for example) then translated back into English, producing some hilarious results.

I am sure that I am mixing European Eras/Epochs a bit, but I do like the colourfulness of the models as a contrast to some of the earlier British periods I run.
 

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QUOTE (SRman @ 10 Jul 2020, 12:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am sure that I am mixing European Eras/Epochs a bit, but I do like the colourfulness of the models as a contrast to some of the earlier British periods I run.

Nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, it's your model railway. Mine so far is quite a varied mix of Era IV German (both East and West) and Australian. But even with the German stuff, I ended up having an Era V loco where there should be an Era IV one, and an Era III restaurant car because the corresponding Era IV one is pretty much unobtainable.
 

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I love that OBB 1014 Michael and the SAD coach set; so much so trying to find the loco now. Found the coach pack ;-)

And your scenery looks great, especially the illuminated Bavarian buildings

QUOTE (Michael Carter @ 8 Jul 2019, 11:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Another recent purchase is this Roco Ã-BB 1014, a sister locomotive to the 1822 Brenner Loks. This is also a smooth and silent runner, but the headlights are so dim and tiny you can't tell if they are on or off under strong room lighting. Since there is no sound file available for this locomotive, I opted for a Viessmann standard NEM652 decoder. The highlight of this decoder is the extremely smooth and slow stopping and starting the decoder provides. The stopping distance is incredible.
 

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QUOTE (Alex Hempel @ 13 Jul 2020, 15:55) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, it's your model railway. Mine so far is quite a varied mix of Era IV German (both East and West) and Australian. But even with the German stuff, I ended up having an Era V loco where there should be an Era IV one, and an Era III restaurant car because the corresponding Era IV one is pretty much unobtainable.

Thanks Alex.

I have been concentrating on eras V and VI, but probably running the odd combinations that wouldn't have been seen together. They look good though.


I have also run a couple of Australian trains. The NSW V sets hold some pleasant memories for me on visits to Sydney and its surrounding areas.

I posed this photo some time ago to compare the relative sizes of the Danish IC3 (as a Swedish Y2 here) against the V set, both in HO scale, showing just how big the Danish trains are. I also sat a German double deck coach beside the NSW set, and the German type is significantly taller (no photos of that, though). Having ridden the V sets and Sydney suburbans, I know they have decent headroom inside (I am over 6' tall in the old measure), whereas the Melbourne DD set was around 20cm (or 8" roughly) lower, meaning even average height passengers bumped their heads on the staircases. The German (and Danish ones of the same design) seem very generous and are, I believe, around a foot higher than the NSW standard.


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SRMan,

what make/model is that Swedish Y2?

I only have Queensland freight at this moment. Looking to build an approximation of the Great Southern when the new SDS NR30 is available, but rolling stock for that will be expensive.

My QLD fleet is the 2300 Class with coal hoppers, and the 2170 class with cattle wagons.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/TPV_0TXx6L4?rel=0

Here's my BR 132 in East German livery, with original, East German made passenger cars, that are probably older than me. This is my 'Berlin - Prague Express' and probably the most prototypical Era IV German train I have. I still need one or two more of those passenger cars.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/F6DjqcQ85fY?rel=0

I'm not very far with scenery yet, but this is only my training layout. Construction of a bigger layout will commence soon.
 
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