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Good morning SR Man. They are great little money sets. I have an earlier model bought about 5 years ago At that time i did not want to spend too much money on it as my Swiss collection shall we say was more interesting. I also bought the Piko Austrian OBB night Jet which looks Superb for the money. I do also have the Roco version of the night Jet and apart from Scale and a few details it looks Fantastic.
I bought them because when in Interlaken & Basel Station i always saw these trains. Nice sets all round worth the money. Great for youngsters to get into the hobby. Babs
Yes, my reasons for buying an ICE set (any ICE style!) were that I saw several in Hamburg at the time of my visit in 2018. One of these days I might get to ride in one too. Once we can travel again, I intend to do a bit of rail travel in Europe using a Eurail Pass,
 

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Hi Guys, Here is my latest Purchase which has been on order since last year .The Engine is G Scale and it is the 65th year of the Harz railway which is in the Old East Germany. Which i give a big fat recommendation to Visit if you love a fully function Steam railway. I hope you like the pic .Babs
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Hi Guys, Here is my latest Purchase which has been on order since last year .The Engine is G Scale and it is the 65th year of the Harz railway which is in the Old East Germany. Which i give a big fat recommendation to Visit if you love a fully function Steam railway. I hope you like the pic .Babs
That looks very impressive, John.
 

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Very nice indeed looks the business. You would never know it was an inexpensive model. I like piko because they give good detail listing of spare parts that can be easy to get. Enjoy your model. When I am better I will be back in the loft getting on with it. Babs
 

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Babz, you so have to tell us a little more about those interesting vehicles; date of introduction into service, are the one window compartments in a sleeping car, why is the sliding door open on the chilled milk churn car, did the open end platforms also have provision for a gangway between the vehicles?
 

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Babz, you so have to tell us a little more about those interesting vehicles; date of introduction into service, are the one window compartments in a sleeping car, why is the sliding door open on the chilled milk churn car, did the open end platforms also have provision for a gangway between the vehicles?
34C I have had to cheat a bit I am not very well at the moment so I copied and Paste the info I just bought them because i like them and are from a long gone Era. Babs

Although the SBB had taken over the American four-axle vehicles in large numbers and the wagons had proven themselves in operation , a decision was made in favor of a three-axle version when purchasing new wagons . After a while, the long car body showed severe twisting and deformation. The reason was the very poor running characteristics of the primitive, cradle-springless bogies. Even so, some remained in operation until 1941. In 1930, trains that consisted of four-axle vehicles were still running between Winterthur and Wil .
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Prototype: Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) series Ce 6/8 I "Köfferli" freight train electric locomotive. Execution in the early delivery condition. Fictional black basic color scheme with gray chassis and red wheels. With bar buffer, driver's cab doors on the front without windows and with transition plates, with sanding system, without wrong-way signal and without Integra-Signum magnet. Locomotive road number 14 2020. Operating condition in the 1920s.
 

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34C I have had to cheat a bit I am not very well at the moment so I copied and Paste the info I just bought them because I like them and are from a long gone Era ...
Thanks, hope you make a quick return to health.
 

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Babz, you so have to tell us a little more about those interesting vehicles; date of introduction into service, are the one window compartments in a sleeping car, why is the sliding door open on the chilled milk churn car, did the open end platforms also have provision for a gangway between the vehicles?
34C, Babz, others,
You will note that the look of those wagons Babz purchased is very similar to many products from BRAWA over the years.
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(This last one, catalogue # 45064, is actually a model of one of the Swiss wagons)
Now I will make a disclaimer here, because I don't have my reference works to hand at the moment and I do not profess to be an expert on Swiss railway history.
However, in the early days of the Swiss railways, much of the rolling stock - both locos, passenger coaches and goods wagons were manufactured at the Maschinenfabrik Esslingen (a suburb of Stuttgart) who made the rolling stock for the Koenigliche Wuerttembergische Staats Eisenbahn. The KWStE was a forward thinking organisation and adopted several American practices including the use of bogies in passenger stock. Hence Babs referred to them as American four-wheeled coaches. They were not actually American, they were German, made in Esslingen. The first locos in Switzerland were often of Esslingen origin and I think the first locos employed on the Gotthard route were Esslingen built.
I'll do a bit more research and get back to you with more details. I hope this is interesting....
Someone else may refine these observations....
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I did a few short video clips of my Piko ICE 3 running this morning. Posted on YouTube here:

Hi SR Man
Nice looking set, I wanted a ICE since travelling on one a few years back, I settled on the Fleischmann ICE1 as it was more like the one I travelled on and didn't look as modern as your ICE3.
But after seeing yours, I've got the urge again and am looking for another ICE unit
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Hi all,
Hope you are all safe and well, and hope you are recovering well Babs.
Well not much been happening recently, my wife's father died a few weeks back and we have been busy with all that follows, funeral, probate and sorting his house out. I'm sure he never threw anything away in his whole life ! we're onto the fourth skip already. As he didn't live that close we can only go at weekends.
Still, I have managed to make a couple of purchases, 2 railcars. A Trix 22738 electric , and a Piko 52882 diesel, both reasonably priced considering they are both DCC sound
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Hi Alan Sorry for your loss. I am a little better from last week have Kidney problems. It was so bad I have not that kind of pain for a longtime.
Back to Trains The railcar from Trix is very nice. I bought when it first came out as i like that sort of Train.How is the Sound on the Piko is it any good as i have a few versions from different makes The Brawa ones inside are rubbish and they have run out of spares and they are not that old. P 's me off.
My LGB 2-10-2 Has arrived and the Sound and Steam/ Smoke is cool. I am using my Ecos 2 and it does it really well glad i bought it now.
The LGB loks that i have uses M4 MFX and as soon as you put it on the Track it reads the decoder and puts the F numbers up and stores them for me that is the business. Why i did not buy before i don't know.
I am having to send my Swiss Trix Elok back for replacement as the Headlight/ Tail lights are not working no matter what I try even with a master reset. This is the first time since Brexit that i have sent something back. It is not as difficult as it seems. I will let you know.
Take Care Buddy. Babs
 

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The railcar from Piko is very nice, I have the version without sound. I think the trailer is just that and had no controls for driving the train so had to be run around at the terminus. The later trailers were control cars.
 

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I was posted to an RAF Signals Unit, in Berlin, a while back in 1980, for 3 years. Of course, this was before The Wall got breached and freedom of movement became normal across all parts of Germany again. It was an "interesting" time and a few people did manage to get in the wrong place at the wrong time, upon occasion, which inevitably resulted in a bit of an international flurry. Doing so was not, therefore recommended, nor were the occasional beatings [although not always] which might get landed on those who did so. Cue the 2 soldiers who, after a few too many beers, decided it would be a great jape to climb over for a laugh. They were treated as suspect spies and it took 3 days to get them back, in a state which would ensure that neither they, or anyone who knew about it, would attempt a repetition of the jape.

In this "convivial atmosphere", it was possible to go to the West on the British Military Train - The Berliner, for which the Berlin military units provided daily Duty Train Officers. Having done the Duty Officer several times a model would be good, so a new N Gauge, HN4297 Arnold The Berliner Royal Corps of Transport 4 Coach Pack, has recently been a welcome purchase. It all looks very nice, although at least one Coach will need a respray, in RCT Blue.

Of course they will need a loco to haul them and there is even a choice of 3, for each journey.
1. The Berlin to the wall section; Berlin Grunewald-allocated 1968-built DR 'V180' Class 118 318-5 1978.
2. The DDR section; Ludmilla 132 440-9, delivered new to DR in November 1976.
3. The Helmstedt to Braunschwieg section, as yet undiscovered and it may be a wide subject, as there were more locos to choose from.

I have found a couple of possible candidate models, but having read this Thread, it seems to me that some advice, on quality might be advisable.
Type 1. Fleischmann 721371 DR BR118 Diesel Locomotive IV (DCC-Sound)
Type 2. Brawa 132, TRIX 12589 DR BR 132 Ludmilla. Other makes may be available and seem to be rare.

You gentlemen have a wealth of knowledge, which I am not privy to, on the subject of European models. Would there be a preference for maker, for a sound DDR Ludmilla, class 132? Finding a N Gauge one is tricky, so I would rather not buy into a "pup". I would be grateful for any information on what is available and sources.

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I run HO so I can't comment directly on the quality of what's available. All I can contribute is that Fleischmann is now owned by the same company as Roco and they have rationalised the brands as Roco for HO and Fleischmann for N.
Trix is owned by Maerklin and in HO it provides all the DC models. In N it's a different matter and Trix is the brand there.
Piko is well worth taking a look at. In HO they have value for money models but also a higher spec 'Expert' range. They may do something similar in N.
Brawa seem to be a low volume manufacturer. I don't have any of their stuff but you do seem 'disgruntled' posts about their product from time to time.

To get an idea of what is available in N, visit modellbahnshop-lippe.com. They stock stuff from manufacturers you have probably never heard. I find their website easy to navigate. I have been buying stuff from them for years and still do.

Best of luck with your search.

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Thank you very much David, that is very clear and makes sense of what looked like confusing information. I had noticed a few comments about Brawa, but didn't have enough information about whether it was because of high numbers in production or high percentages of smaller production. I was uncertain about Modelbahnshop-Lippa, too, as they had so much to see, I thought they may have been part of a manufacturer sales. With what you have clarified they will definitely get a number of more visits.

There is a 118 [+sound] at a UK outlet, so it is very tempting to get one, as well as the DR 132 Ludmilla - but at £300.00 a throw, that may be a dream too far.

Thank you David, that is so much help and gives me positive directions to follow.

Julian
 
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