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Springing from something DWB posted on the 'Testing the water' thread:

"Given the small size of this (Marklin Sinus type) motor, it may also become feasible to make models of pre-grouping British steam locos which brings us back to .... the Dunalastair, and my question of whether a small, cute and pretty engine would sell."

This doesn't absolutely need the Sinus type motor, nice though that certainly would be: there are already small conventional can motors which can get inside a 4 foot diameter boiler, so the lack of a suitable motor is not the fundamental obstacle.

Would a small cute and pretty engine sell? Likely so when first introduced, but would it make the volume sales a RTR manufacturer needs to be assured of to risk the investment? That may be something of an obstacle, but there may be a way round this. There were distinct families of 0-6-0's and 4-4-0's on the pre-grouping railways, much of it due to engineers moving from works to works taking designs with them. Pick the right protoypes and from the investment to produce a motorised chassis and some core body parts, it would be possible to produce a number of prototypes. Dugald Drummond is one prime example, with locos to his design, and developed further, in Scotland and Southern England. The Worsdell and Stirling dynasties may offer similar opportunities. This is simply an extension of what Hornby have done very sucessfully with the Gresley pacific group: one chassis mech fits both basic body shells, to which numerous detail variations are than made to cover three classes development.
 

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you mean...along the lines of the old Triang Caley single and LOTI singles?

ie, appealing to the 'cute' market?

I suspect there would be business case for such models as you quote...possibly more....but they would be limited run, ...and at a huge price disadvantage.

Because in order to appeal to the specialist cute market [I suspect those buying to run will be relatively few and far between?] they will likely be super detailed, fragile, delicate, etc.....rather than the mor robust models currently available?

There ARE specialist small manufacturers of steam locos, ready-to-run...but at prices well over double that of Hornby's present offerings.

question...does/did the Dean Goods actually sell in vast, profitable numbers?
 

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"Specialist cute"

I was thinking of mums, grans, wives, girlfriends, partners who would buy one for their kids, grandkids, other halves because it's pretty, cute etc. I know some of these people exist but are they enough to subsidise the production of less mainstream "modeller fodder"?

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I know I'm showing my age....but the market I refer to....for want of a suitably commercial title...me being the antithesis of ''commercial'.....is the ''Der Adler'' market.
 

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I was thinking along the lines of the Beattie well tanks, I feel sure the chassis could be used elsewhere. ( and I think it falls into the "cute" bracket )

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some time ago, ''K's'' produced whitemetal kits with brass chassis for oddball cutie locos..I still have a Metro tank somewhere....cannot remember what they were called..?
 

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QUOTE (alastairq @ 13 Oct 2007, 11:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>does/did the Dean Goods actually sell in vast, profitable numbers?
Probably not, based on the general story about goods engines. Ten or more 'glamourous' express types leave the shop for every tender goods engine sold. (The one exception apparently the 9F; but it is a 'big' engine, and a striking design.)

That's why I feel that some real intelligence is required to pick prototypes which can share the large majority of the investment cost, so that a decent overall return is achieved despite relatively small sales by individual prototype.
 

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QUOTE one exception apparently the 9F
It certainly seems to do well. According to the availability listing on Bachmann's website, the weathered version from this year's releases are already gone from their warehouse though there are bound to be some somewhere in the supply chain.

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