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Spotted on the Marklin board. This could have serious implications when soldering to electronic component boards or to existing solder:-

QUOTE Hi friends,

No doubt, the new year brings a lot of new item for us model railroaders: new loks , new cars , new layouts , and new regulations from the European Commission (Sorry, no adequate smiley available for this kind of feeling).

The point is: the presently available soldering wire will disappear from market within near future. This is enforced by a new regulation of the EU, which has meanwhile been approved by the most national governments in Europe, more or less without attracting public attention.

As you know, the soldering metal in our loks, cars, and layouts is an alloy of 60 % tin and 40 % lead. As lead is a toxic substance, especially when inhaled with the soldering vapour, the EU enforced that the existing soldering metal must be distracted from market, i.e. the tin-lead-alloy will disappear from the catalogs of the electronics distributors, such as Conrad, Reichelt, Farnell, and others. This is intended as a measure of health protection for employees in electronics industry, where large quantities of soldering metal are processed. As a replacement, a different soldering alloy consisting of 98 % tin and 2 % antimony will be offered. Good thing, in principle.

However, there are some drawbacks:

1. the new soldering alloy cannot be mixed with the old one. That is, you can't repair an existing soldering connection using the new soldering metal. Before you contact a wire or an electronic component at a soldering point of an electronic board using the new alloy, you must first completely remove the old soldering metal in the vicinity of the respective soldering point. May be difficult on a lok decoder, I think. And you can't reuse electronic components that have been in contact with the old alloy.

2. The new alloy requires a higher soldering temperature. With the old alloy, optimal soldering temperatures was 280 - 330 °C. The new alloy requires 350 - 400 °C. It is not clear whether existing electronics components and electronic layout board will withstand this elevated temperature.

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For the time being this all is a case for us european model railroaders, and it does not affect our overseas friends. Allthough one never knows what will happen in the more remote future.

My recommendation: don't forget to order some spare rolls of old electronics soldering wire, as long as it is still available.

Hans Martin

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Gary
 

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I've got about 10kg in varing grades so it might effect some people more than others.
This is typical beaurocratic bullshit designed with our well being in mind. What about all the lead in batteries ?. Pathetic.
 

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Do you realize that if legislation carries on at the present rate we will not even be able to buy an electric drill in a few years time, and there will be a government amnesty to allow us to hand in the existing ones. But look on the bright side, never another shelf for 'she who must be obeyed'.

Now----I'm off into the garden to take advantage of the darkness and fit an outside power point, but wait! whats that? A helicopter fitted with night vision equipment and a megadoodle searchlight " This is your local anti DIY squad, put down your tools and lie face down on the ground".


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How will this affect those brave people who assemble White Metal kits by soldering.

Oh I forgot !!! White Metal will be banned won't it ?
 

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Of course most of the worlds toy trains are made in China.

Now what sort of solder are the Chinese going to use when manufacturing the workings of these toy trains and other types of toy such as slot cars?

Especially those with electronic gadgetary?

One type for the USA and one type for us Euros?


Thats going to be fun when the time comes to install digital add ons.

Typical Euro rubbish with no thought put into it.

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I've seen that cleverly set out advert too Doug.
The ban of course affects all items with lead in them and not just solder. We use lead weights to balance wheels at work and have been unable to get them for months. The newer ones are zinc which are a lot more expensive to buy. I don't know how it will affect in particular car batteries which contain a lot of lead but there are now lithium batteries available for electrical goods do maybe the same will apply there. Whatever they replace it with will probably turn out to be even more poisonous than lead, lets face it tin isn't the healthiest substance known to man.
 

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Hey Gary, I saw your ad too...


So if they get rid of lead, what are fishermen going to use for sinkers?

I have about 20kg of lead in my garage that I used for moulding, weighting slotcars, locos and wagons. I bought it from the DIY - it is used as roof flashing. All over the place here in France.
 

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QUOTE (Doug @ 16 Jan 2006, 23:28)So if they get rid of lead, what are fishermen going to use for sinkers?
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If they want to really liven that particular sport up i'd suggest sodium or potassium or one of those other somewhat reactive elements from that column of the periodic table.
 

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QUOTE As a replacement, a different soldering alloy consisting of 98 % tin and 2 % antimony will be offered. Good thing, in principle
Depends on one's definition of 'good' - antimony is a notorious poison!

Quote from Wikipedia
"Antimony and many of its compounds are toxic.
Clinically, antimony poisoning is very similar to arsenic poisoning."

All the components of solder are poisonous, including the tin.
If interested, take a look at MedLine Plus A Service of The US National Library of Medicine.

All fluxes are also toxic/poisonous, some of them lethally so.

There is virtually nothing in life which is not in some way deleterious to human health. Following the imbecilic 'logic' of Euro-beaurocracy, would lead to the total banning of life, on the inarguable basis that life is the sole cause of the existence of death. Think about it


Following Doug's useful link, among other useful info, provides an interesting statistic. QUOTE solders use only 1.2% of the annual global consumption of lead, so you may feel that this yet another case of a 'sledgehammer to crack a nut'.
'Reasonable' seems to be a nonexistent word in the vocabulary of megalomaniac politicians, no matter what their nationality

On Chinese soldering.
Rest assured that there will not be two separate production lines for USA and Europe. There is a ton of info indicating that USA is going down the same leadfree track as Europe. Interestingly, it looks as though there may be some VERY important exceptions for the electronics industry. Who knows how it will eventually work out.

The people who really need to be concerned are, of course, plumbers.
What will they be permitted to advertise themselves as in future?
'Plumber' will obviously have to go, because 'plumbum' is Latin for lead (although it looks more like a colourful description for a baboon's backside). So, one must presume that our lunatic political leaders will ban that particular job description very soon, too.
 

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QUOTE (Rail-Rider @ 17 Jan 2006, 12:29)The people who really need to be concerned are, of course, plumbers.
What will they be permitted to advertise themselves as in future?
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Liquid logistics technician?

Sounds like a suitable management-speak[i.e. b*ll*cks] moniker
 
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