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Hi all,

I'm thinking of starting to detail my models and scratch build some parts/items where necessary.
On some American forums it seems Styrene is the most popular building medium.

Is this the case in the UK and if so where does one get it, in what thickness and what is the best method for joining these parts together, and to factory made loco bodies etc.

Many thanks in advance,

Alex
 

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Best known brand is probably Slater's 'Plasticard' which pretty much introduced this product to the UK market 40 some years ago. Slater's liquid cement 'Mekpak' remains my favoured solvent for working with the stuff. Very controllable, and flows into joints by capillary action. However most current RTR models' plastic bodyshells are made using an ABS polymer formulation, and Mekpak is not effective on this. Butanone, or other similarly aggresive branded solvents, are required to bond Plasticard to these.
 

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Yep, same as 34C, I use Slaters Plasticard, available in various thicknesses, with Fineline Plastruct for rodding, ladders, stairways etc. I used these on this part-built model based on Carnforths' coal tower which I will finish one day! For making up thick laminates, the two base-panels and 4 legs in this case, I used cellulose thinners. I buy mine from my local model shop but it can be had at exhibitions, or I'm sure there'll be places online that do mail order.
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That's a beast of a thing! And it looks to be coming on well. I look forward to seeing more of it.

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John,
By all means.
As you can see there's still a lot to do, especially regarding the coal "jiggers" and the wagon lift for which I'm still collecting info.
Carnforths' recent open day gave me the opportunity to get some good pics of the wagon lift and I got a load of pics of the West aspect from a public footpath, other than that, access to Fort Knox would easier!! The tower itself was capable of bunkering 4 locos simultaneously, with a control cabin for each of the 4 jiggers ( one to the North, one to the South, between the concrete legs and 2 on the outrigger to the West ) and another to operate the wagon lift.
Correctly or not, I'll model it with all 3 roads equidistant so that the whole assy. can be rotated, dependant on the view required. I'm just waiting for 'photo's of the "jigger" motor/gearbox/crank assemblies before I resume.
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nice model...well done!

oddly enough, I was reading through an old article in MRJ by one Philip Millard concerning his 40 or more years building rolling stock.

He mentions the first, early usage of plastic sheeting....especially Slater's Plasticard .....and Slaters Mekpak.

he makes the observation regarding Slaters use of the old ICI Bextrene....compared with other apparently similar plastic sheeting...which apparently wasn't ICI Bextrene.....and which also had a tendency to crack and warp with age....???

so, quality really counts?

Slaters Platicard....now, is that the SAME material as Evergreen Styrene?

What do contributors think of Daywat Poly?
 

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I've not used Daywat Poly, just Mekpak for wagon kits etc and cellulose thinners for bigger work. Nor have I used Evergreen styrene but I take your point about varying grades. The plastic used in Dapol kits seems much softer and bendier than the original Airfix kits from my youth, or is it just my memory?
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QUOTE (Carnforth @ 25 Aug 2008, 10:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.. The plastic used in Dapol kits seems much softer and bendier than the original Airfix kits from my youth, or is it just my memory?..
Steve,

Your memory is functioning correctly. Dapol use a significantly softer grade.
 

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Wow it certainly is even more impressive once the loco give you a sense of scale.

Truely a monster building.

Look forward to seeing further progress.

John

I use evergreen styrene, but that what the local model shop stocks, and it does the trick for me.
 

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When it comes to scratchbuilding its Styrene Plasticards for me too.
Joining these together I use Evergreen material .All sorts of shapes and dimensions is available and believe its the best material in the market money can buy.

http://www.evergreenscalemodels.com/

I did my Loco shed with these.





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Amazing building Baykal! stunning work.

I've now managed to source some Plastikard locally in several thicknesses, only problem is they don't stock it in anything bigger than A4 sizes.... but beggars can't be choosers, I shall order online well ahead in the future then I don't have to rush around.

Thanks,

Alex
 

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QUOTE (Avionyx @ 29 Aug 2008, 10:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Amazing building Baykal! stunning work.

I've now managed to source some Plastikard locally in several thicknesses, only problem is they don't stock it in anything bigger than A4 sizes.... but beggars can't be choosers, I shall order online well ahead in the future then I don't have to rush around.

Thanks,

Alex

Avionyx,

Plasticard can be bought in larger sheets ..i dont have the address i bought it from right here but will look later for you a quick search on ebay revealed some sources though just put in plasticard in the search engine and take a look.
 

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QUOTE (upnick @ 29 Aug 2008, 11:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Avionyx,

Plasticard can be bought in larger sheets .

There just has to be a source - it is probably produced in huge sheets & just cut down to A4 or whatever - be interesting to find out what it's "trade" name is.
 

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Hi Guys

Something else to consider DAS

I sat in on a training course today at DCC Concepts on using Das as a building medium. I just couldnt believe how flexible the stuff it and more so how easy it is to use.

Ask Richard about it he will explain more but I will switch more and more of my buildings to Das. Lokk up some of the building he has posted on here made from Das.

Lovely work you have done on the coaling stage by the way looks great, keep us posted.

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QUOTE (ben100 @ 31 Aug 2008, 13:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What thickness is recommended? 1mm?

Hi Ben,
If your making the outer walls with plasticard then 30 thou (around 1mm) should be ok in short sections but 40 thou makes for a sturdier construction for larger items, dont forget it comes in various finishes and thicknesses as well as the plain sheet though the finishes might only be available in A4 sizes, but with careful cutting joins can be concealed if need be for example with a drainpipe


Most times i tend to use 30 thou, but have gone up to 80 thou for strength on a metre and half length bridge still here with me in OO someone asked me for to go over their pond layout .... it is still in my workshop made from two sections an impressive thing but useless to me peco girder section along with plastruct combined...... if anyone is interested in it please let me know via PM
 

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