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Hello, I am looking for a scale plan of Swanage & Bournemouth West around the post war period, all the track diagrams I have found are not to scale or do not give any idea of scale. Could someone please help and tell me if they know of any sources for plans for the above 2 stations.

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QUOTE (Merry Go Round @ 24 Apr 2007, 19:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello, I am looking for a scale plan of Swanage & Bournemouth West around the post war period, all the track diagrams I have found are not to scale or do not give any idea of scale. Could someone please help and tell me if they know of any sources for plans for the above 2 stations.

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Have you looked at the Middleton press Swanage branch book? sure that had some scale plans in it.
How accurate do you want? Ordnance survey holds all the relevant maps from then which you can get from local licensed mapping shops, it's not cheap but it does have everything on.
 

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Ian Allan did a 'Railway World Special' on the Swanage Branch in 1987 (ISBN 0 7110 1618 6). Author was Andrew P M Wright. I picked up a copy for about £3 at the Transport and Military Bookshop in Falconwood, SE London about 5 years ago. This has track plans of both Swanage in 1945 and Corfe Castle in 1956, as well as a map of the whole line showing the local tramways serving various works on the Isle of Purbeck.
There is much useful information on the line and its history, before and after closure and of the early restoration days.
I was fortunate to have a couple of family holidays in Swanage in my early teens when the branch was still steam operated, not of course that I paid it a great deal of attention then!

Ormsby Hall, a National Trust property near Middlesborough, on Tees-side, has an excellent model of Corfe Castle station - this was featured in either British Railway Modelling or Model Rail in the past 12 months.
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A couple of places that may help - the Swanage Railway guide may have something, I don't think the basic track plan has changed much in preservation as there's not much additional space. Also RM did a full article on it probably about summer 1977. You may be able to find this?

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>I don't think the basic track plan has changed much in preservation as there's not much additional space
In that case, here's a photo of Corfe Castle station taken a fortnight ago.

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I have the Ian allen special, the plan in that is a sketch with no scale on it and I have a 1905 OS map but I understand the track layout changed slightly in the early part of last century.

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 25 Apr 2007, 16:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A couple of places that may help - the Swanage Railway guide may have something, I don't think the basic track plan has changed much in preservation as there's not much additional space. Also RM did a full article on it probably about summer 1977. You may be able to find this?
Don't go by the current track layout it has been reduced at swanage by the loss of the whole goods yard and the new signalbox is on the opposite side of the line. I think the pointwork is in a different position too. I think the gasworks siding was still there in the 50's as well.
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"The Somerset and Dorset Then and Now" Mac Hawkins 1986 by Guild Publishing/ Patrick Stephens Ltd has the trackplan of Bournemouth West.

This is a very good book with maps /trackplansn of many of the stations on the Somerset & Dorset. It waas my intention to use this to build a replica of the route in trainz railway simulator.

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QUOTE (rb277170 @ 25 Apr 2007, 20:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"The Somerset and Dorset Then and Now" Mac Hawkins 1986 by Guild Publishing/ Patrick Stephens Ltd has the trackplan of Bournemouth West.

This is a very good book with maps /trackplansn of many of the stations on the Somerset & Dorset. It waas my intention to use this to build a replica of the route in trainz railway simulator.

Russell
I have both version of the book and if I remember they are 1901 edt OS maps which predate my era by about 60 years and there were some changes to the layout. Out of all the S&D stations it's the one I wanted to do due to it being a Termini and Bath is too big, thats why I wanted Swanage as a fall back as an alternative but a scale plan is as elusive as Bornemouth.

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I think the sketch plan on page 13 of the Ian Allan Special is in proportion if not to a particular scale. If you can get a map of Swanage, you could try copying the sketch, preferably onto copier OHP film, and overlay onto the map. Vary the 'zoom' on the copier until the roads in the sketch line up with the map.

The Special also has plenty of photos with Mk1 coaches in. You could use the length of these to estimate the lengths of the platforms and hence the size of the station.
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QUOTE (John Webb @ 26 Apr 2007, 21:59) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the sketch plan on page 13 of the Ian Allan Special is in proportion if not to a particular scale. If you can get a map of Swanage, you could try copying the sketch, preferably onto copier OHP film, and overlay onto the map. Vary the 'zoom' on the copier until the roads in the sketch line up with the map.

The Special also has plenty of photos with Mk1 coaches in. You could use the length of these to estimate the lengths of the platforms and hence the size of the station.
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If I remember there is a shot of a r/b WC overhanging the crossing, and it states that trains of X length fouled the crossing and had to be seen off manualy. Time to dig out the book again.

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I am modelling the swanage branch in O and have used the maps in the middleton press book 'The Swanage Branch' the maps are to OS scales and there are ones covering all the changes to the track layout. I have changed the layout to suit the space I have and have moved the bay crossover to the first two freight roads to make operation more interesting. The bay X'over was taken out in 1938/9 as far as I have been able to discover.

For Bournemouth West you are best looking at the historical OS maps, some of these can be downloaded for free, upto 1919 I think, but otherwise the 25in to the mile series is the one to buy as this gives all the station on two maps and will allow you to scale easily.

You may be able to get a BR map from the NRM at York as they do have some for parts of the country and they show the actual rail layouts with the gauge at approx 3mm on paper but I think they are quite expensive.

hope this helps.

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Re the bay crossover, I haven't seen the Middleton book so I don't know which years they show. The 1945 plan shown in the Ian Allan Special book I mentioned above shows this still in place at that date.
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