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Yes, it's good to see a review of something out of the ordinary, something extra special like this.
Very much appreciated!

Neil says
QUOTE The only real question is, is it worth the price?
This is one of the two TOP questions that everyone asks about any product.

Do I like/want it?
How much does it cost?

Price being inarguably one of, if not THE the most crucial factor, I feel it is essential that all reviews provide at least an indicaton of what the price actually is.
So come on, Neil, frighten us with a figure!
 

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The price is actually in the review. It's 589 Euros if bought from Germany full price. I gave the British price as 410 pounds which is 589 Euros converted into pounds. If you bought it from a shop in the UK you would be charged more than this as the prices in the UK seem to charge pound for euro. I have even seen one shop trying to sell it for 750 quid! 500 quid seems nearer the mark.

I should also add that I didn't pay 589 euros. As I am currently resident in Australia I can buy model trains from Europe minus the vat, which in Germany is 16%. So that took it down to closer to 510 euros. It is a lot of cash but you do get a complete train i.e loco and matching coaches of excellent quality. As you can read in the review, I think it's great.


If you are interested in German or continental railway products please check stores in Germany as you will easily cut a third to a quarter of the price.
 

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LOL!!!
You are of course right Neil - Sometimes I can't see the wood for the trees, or am approaching bat-iness, or both, or something!


Good tip on shopping around, although shipping from mainland Europe to UK can sometimes kill a deal.

Sorry again about my mistake!
 

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Dennis, my regular supplier is Modellbahn Kramm. I have only had one issue with them when they sent me the wrong item but they did rectify that and refund the postage. I have found them to be pretty good. I have also used Modelbahn Hildesheim for the Henschel Wegman as they were prepared to sell me a Profi Club train.

I would recommend Modellbahn Kramm as their prices are great, especially when you deduct the VAT, e.g the 22205 ICE3 costs 599 Euros their price 539 Euros and with vat deducted 465 Euros. three quarters of the recommended retail price. From Lokshops website their prices look cheaper but I am not certain I am reading their conditions right; it hinges around whether the vat is to be deducted or if it already has, and also they say they will not insure any parcels.


As for currently resident of Australia, I have been here for six years, with the current governments polices I would be surprised if their was anyone here in another six years time.
They seem determined to take Australia back to Victorian times.
 

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QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 17 May 2006, 02:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>... with the current governments polices I would be surprised if their was anyone here in another six years time.
They seem determined to take Australia back to Victorian times.

Where are all the South Africans going to go then...
 

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Hello Neil , got my Rivarossi Henschel yesterday so I went back to your review to compare notes.
Outside appearance of the Rivarossi model is outstanding and judging from your photos surprisingly comparable to its Trix counterpart in detailing and level of finish.
Only when you pick up the coaches and examine carefully does the contrast become obvious . In the past I have only bought Trix , Fleischmann and Roco wagons and you cannot even begin to compare their quality to those lightweight plasticy Italian ones.
Again with the loco, ....despite the great appearance and decent performance (Analog) a small examination of the undercarriage reveals that unlike our favorit German brands this is not a model built to last a lifetime Too much plastic and too many shortcuts. The bottom line, ............you get what you pay for !!
I''ll keep this one until a Trix model appears.

Regards
Kal

Any idea about the minimum radius for the Henschel ?
 

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QUOTE (kq53 @ 7 Nov 2007, 10:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello Neil , got my Rivarossi Henschel yesterday so I went back to your review to compare notes.
Outside appearance of the Rivarossi model is outstanding and judging from your photos surprisingly comparable to its Trix counterpart in detailing and level of finish.
Only when you pick up the coaches and examine carefully does the contrast become obvious . In the past I have only bought Trix , Fleischmann and Roco wagons and you cannot even begin to compare their quality to those lightweight plasticy Italian ones.
Again with the loco, ....despite the great appearance and decent performance (Analog) a small examination of the undercarriage reveals that unlike our favorit German brands this is not a model built to last a lifetime Too much plastic and too many shortcuts. The bottom line, ............you get what you pay for !!
I''ll keep this one until a Trix model appears.

Regards
Kal
Any idea about the minimum radius for the Henschel ?
The Trix one has moving skirts where the bogies are on the coaches to enable it to get round tight curves. I'm not sure how tight but fairly tight. I prefer the Trix models due to the metal used in their construction. They last. This was a Trix Profi club model and I'm not sure if they will be rereleasing it. It is very nice though. Is the Rivarossi a current model?

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Neil
 

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QUOTE (kq53 @ 6 Nov 2007, 23:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello Neil , got my Rivarossi Henschel yesterday so I went ba
Again with the loco, ....despite the great appearance and decent performance (Analog) a small examination of the undercarriage reveals that unlike our favorit German brands this is not a model built to last a lifetime Too much plastic and too many shortcuts. The bottom line, ............you get what you pay for

I suspect that this may very well be the case with the HI range too, although I really hope I'm wrong, there is some nice looking models in the range.
 
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