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I have been doing some research recently about the Midland Railway and have noted that they were the first to introduce Pullman Cars to the UK in 1874. However, I have not been able to come across much information as to what happened to these carriages. There does not seem to be a lot of information freely available on this topic. Did the policy of using Pullman cars on the Midland continue into LMS days? Was it abandoned due to the expansion of the Southerns Pullman Car range? What sort of Pullman cars did the midland operate?

I notice that Wrenn did some maroon "LMS Pullman" coaches so I assume the LMS did run them and they were maroon, but there seems to be a frustrating lack of information on this topic available!

Can any of the more knowledgeable folk shed some light on this topic?

Thanks,

Rob

 

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For what its worth, I found this picture of the Wrenn LMS Pullmans. Seem to me to be just repaints of their standard Pullmans. May well bear little resemblance to the real things. I've been through a few of my books but can't find any more info than what Richard has posted.

Here's the picture of the Wrenn Pullmans:

Rob

 

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QUOTE (andrew @ 6 Dec 2008, 18:13) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A good source of Pullman information is Terry Bye's "Coupé News". I don't know if it has covered the MR cars, but may be worth a search. You can find it at http://www.semgonline.com/coach/coupe/index.html. The only picture I've seen of an MR car is in Cuthbert Hamilton Ellis's "The Midland Railway", Ian Allan, 1955, p167. The picture shows a conversion to a push-pull carriage, which would account for one of them. I am sure it is long out of print, so it is probably OK to scan it and send it for private use if that would be helpful.

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the link to Coupe News, I'm just about to start working my way through all the issues to see what I can find, some very interesting stuff!

Will send you a PM regarding the scan.

Thanks,

Rob

 

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Thanks for all this guys, i'll have a look at some of the books mentioned and probably go for one of them. Although my primary goal is to find out more information about the LMS Pullmans, I am still interested in the entire UK Pullman story until the end of steam.

Rob

 

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Thanks for all this information guys, it makes for great reading!

Rob