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The UK's first tender mounted socket?

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Bachmann's recently refreshed home page as a news item on the forthcoming Ivatt 2MT. It's due in July and reads like any other Bachmann promo piece until you get to this statement...

"The tenders feature a permanent close coupled link that includes the wiring to the Digital Decoder socket located in the tender body."

Is this a first for a UK outline model? Heck I don't care, I want one!

Way to go Bachmann


And yes I am well aware that Roco et al have been doing this for years, but my modelling is closer to SVR than Nene Valley


David
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Getting a decoder into the boiler of an Ivatt 2MT might be "interesting" so I can see the logic.

Hornby have included tender pickup for a number of years - certainly the Black 5 has it and I assume the've continued the practice as standard. But they've not exploited this to put the decoder in the tender.

Through wiring has its drawbacks and I notice Bachmann went for a satellite decoder in their 108 ( which also has cost drawbacks) . But it could certainly make a lot of decoder installations much easier

I had a Hornby Ivatt 2MT long ago - it was my first "proper" loco , and I might be tempted even though kettles are not my normal scene
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QUOTE (Ravenser @ 6 May 2007, 13:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Through wiring has its drawbacks

Not always - Roco used a 4-pole conductive & close coupling on their ET420 3-care set years ago - these things can easily be achieved if the manufacture can be bothered to do so.
Piko currently use a similar multipole coupling on some of their larger steam locomotives (& they have fitted lights).
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Well done Bachmann!
Let's hope this is the beginning of a trend and not a one off!

Easy access to decoder sockets, whether pre-fitted with decoder or not, is vital for encouraging further take up of DCC.
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Forgot to add on my last post - "Good for Bachmann".
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slightly confused about why they are going for a perminant coupling rather than the traditional "Spectrum" soloution of a plug and socket between the tender. it is probably because the briittish are ham fisted and will break it.

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While I'm very pro tender decoder plugs - I do hope we don't get one of those terrible cam tender connectors they featured on the N class.
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QUOTE (Makemineadouble @ 7 May 2007, 13:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>While I'm very pro tender decoder plugs - I do hope we don't get one of those terrible cam tender connectors they featured on the N class.


i'l second that. the more you put behing the N the more the tender twists and derails!

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QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 7 May 2007, 14:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i'l second that. the more you put behing the N the more the tender twists and derails!

Peter

I'll second that, I had to modify my tender connection to get it to work. Incidentally, now that it has been converted to DCC it runs even better. I am looking forward to this Ivatt, it will join my Comet Models kit. A strange thing has been happening, I have been having kits built and they are turning up as R-T-R by Bachmann. The Ivatt was my most recent, the DJH Standard 4MT preceeded that, and I am currently having a Brassmaster's Jubilee built, and, lo and behold, Bachmann are doing an upgrade to their model (which hardly has the presence of a Jubilee).

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QUOTE (Hugh Williams @ 16 May 2007, 22:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A strange thing has been happening, I have been having kits built and they are turning up as R-T-R by Bachmann. The Ivatt was my most recent, the DJH Standard 4MT preceeded that, and I am currently having a Brassmaster's Jubilee built, and, lo and behold, Bachmann are doing an upgrade to their model (which hardly has the presence of a Jubilee).

This the normal application of Sods law. Would you mind having a S&Djr 7F built pronto !
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I've been doing the same. I've been building a Comet Royal Scot and Lo and behold Hornby anounce a Royal Scot. By the time I start my DJH A-2 somebody will doing one of those.

Ozzie21

QUOTE (Hugh Williams @ 17 May 2007, 07:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'll second that, I had to modify my tender connection to get it to work. Incidentally, now that it has been converted to DCC it runs even better. I am looking forward to this Ivatt, it will join my Comet Models kit. A strange thing has been happening, I have been having kits built and they are turning up as R-T-R by Bachmann. The Ivatt was my most recent, the DJH Standard 4MT preceeded that, and I am currently having a Brassmaster's Jubilee built, and, lo and behold, Bachmann are doing an upgrade to their model (which hardly has the presence of a Jubilee).
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