[Ruffnut Thorston]

Hi,

I liked the "wish list" article. I suppose a "cut off" point for the "prototype fleet list" was neccessary, but this in itself causes problems.

The GWR 0-6-0 list excluded the Dean Goods, which is available RTR. (I suppose the last one was withdrawn before 1958?)

The LNER section mentioned the "old" Lima J50 0-6-0t, but no other "deleted" older models got a mention. Funnily enough, following this article was the piece on the Tri-ang 3MT, which was on the BR Standard Wish List, but wasn't mentioned...

As Hornby Magazine is mainly a 1948-19?? BR period magazine, how about a list of all the RTR models that have been made, to make it a little smaller, perhaps stick to 2-rail OO British stock, which most people could perhaps find second hand?

That would add things like the Tri-ang 3f 0-6-0 Tender Loco, as well as a few Hornby Dublo 2-rail items, such as the R1 0-6-0t?

OK, I admit an interest in 1950s and 1960s Tri-ang Railways!

 

[Mike Wild]

Nice idea. I'll add the 'whats been made' article to our features list - it may take a little while to get all the information together though!

Thanks,

Mike

P.S. All Dean Goods had been withdrawn by 1958. According to my information the last was withdrawn in May 1957 (No. 2538)

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

Hi Mike.

If there is anything I could do to help, just let me know.

 

[rb277170]

Yes good idea for an article. What about Pat Hammond as a ref source.

Only disappointment on wish lists is lack of mentions for a Scottish 4-4-0 or 0-6-0. While the SR has been starved of good models for years - surely there are more popular models for an 0-6-0 than a SE&CR "C" class. Its time Hornby , in particular, remembered there are some cute models north of the Thames. They do seem to have a polarised view these days.

Russell

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

As an idea of some "bygone" model locomotives, here are a few photos of Tri-ang Locomotives. (From my collection...)

R.52 3f 0-6-0T. Black, Late Crest and Mixed Traffic Lining. Made around 1959.

R.59 BR Standard 3mt 2-6-2T. Black, Late Crest and Mixed Traffic Lining. Made around 1959.

R.59 BR Standard 3mt 2-6-2T. Green, Late Crest and Double Orange Lining. Made around 1960.

R.59 BR Standard 3mt 2-6-2T. Green, Late Crest and Single Orange Lining. (With Smoke Unit) Made around 1969.

Chassis of R.59 2-6-2-T with Smoke Unit, C1969

R.152 0-6-0 Diesel Shunter. Green, Early Crest (Late Crest not used on the shunters by Tri-ang as it did not fit on the doors!).

R.251 3f 0-6-0 with tender. Black, Late Crest and Mixed Traffic Lining. Made around 1959.

"Freelance" (or SECR type) 0-6-0 Saddle Tank. Electric Version with Late Crest. (Designed to accommodate the Clockwork Spring. As was the Diesel Shunter.)

"Freelance" (or SECR type) 0-6-0 Saddle Tank. Clockwork Version with (missing) BR Crest. (Designed to accommodate the Clockwork Spring. As was the Diesel Shunter.)

 

[BobB]

Inaccurate, crude, heavy on the current; but they do have a certain charm don't they !

 

[Madkitten]

i heard there was for a short period of time one that ran on direct mains................................... apparantly it killed a few children then got banned ........................ dropped to 12 volts then!!!! think it was hornby in the 20s or something !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what my husband was telling me anyway!

nikki

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (BobB @ 13 Feb 2009, 19:57) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Inaccurate, crude, heavy on the current; but they do have a certain charm don't they !
Certainly, but I remember them with a certain fondness !

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Madkitten @ 13 Feb 2009, 20:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i heard there was for a short period of time one that ran on direct mains................................... apparantly it killed a few children then got banned ........................ dropped to 12 volts then!!!! think it was hornby in the 20s or something !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what my husband was telling me anyway!

nikki

AFAIR it was Hornby (as in Binns Road) - it used a rheostat type device which incorporated a light bulb - under some circumstances you could get 250v (as it was then) between one of the rails & earth !

(I'd love to have one of those to Portable Appliance Test !).

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

The very first Hornby O Gauge electric locomotive (The "Metropolitan" loco.) was in fact designed to run on the household "mains" current. (I think this varied a bit at that time. Pre British Electricity Authority/ Central Electricity Generating Board "National Grid", the local authority generating stations varied on the voltage, etc.)

This was not unusual at the time (1920s), as many Proprietary O gauge electric railways ran on "house mains".

The Home Office caused a scare about this practice, which had items in The Times and Daily Sketch Newspapers.

Later, Hornby reduced the operating voltage to 20 Volts (AC I think.) I think the O gauge never went to 12 Volts DC.

Hornby Dublo, in 1938, was unusual in adopting 12 Volts D.C. Trix were at that time using 14 Volts A.C.

 

[34C]

QUOTE (Madkitten @ 13 Feb 2009, 20:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i heard there was for a short period of time one that ran on direct mains ..
An ex-colleague had a large O gauge collection (may still have) and operated it. OK, not really suitable for a kid's toy, but for modelling Southern 3rd rail with impressive sparks at interuptions in current collection- THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT!

 

[7113]

Super memory jerkers

Thanks for sharing them Sarah

Regards

 

[Mike Wild]

Thanks for posting the pics. There is something quite magical about the old triang equipment, and I dare say there is some inspiration for our Favourite Models section there. Nice to see Triang products kept so well too.

Mike Wild (Ed).

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

Thanks for the appreciation!

We have "quite a lot" of Tri-ang Railways. I must get around to photographing everything properly.

If anyone wants to use some photos for anything, just let me know.

Here are some photos of a Tri-ang R0 Passenger Train set. Originally Packed in September 1953, it was probably someones Christmas Present that year....

 

[K9-70]

A few of my own early Tri-ang steam and diesel locomotives in my collection.
All of them are in working order except for the R51 N2 tank.

1953 R51 #69561 0-6-2T Class N2. The only diecast bodied locomotive that Tri-ang produced.

1954 R52 #47606 0-6-0T Class 3f

1956 R153 #748 0-6-0ST Class 2f

1957 R253 #5 Diesel Dock Shunter

1958 R153 #748 0-6-0ST Class 2f

K9-70

 

[madon37s]

I too have the Dock Authority shunter in black it was one of my first loco's and I used to lie on the floor (my baseboard was on the floor) with the lights off and watch it come towards me with it's single light on! AHH fantastic days indeed!!

I bought one a few years ago for my "nostalgic" collection along with a "jinty" in BR lined black.

Kind regards

Paul

 

[K9-70]

I have three of them, but haven't the heart to convert them to DCC.
I'll probably build a small 6x4 circuit of Super 4 track, just to watch them whizzing around the track again.

Three more rare Triang Hornby steam locos from the 1970's

1972 R264 #92166 Class 9f (this model was released around the same time as the original Triang Hornby Evening Star, and has a number of slight differences from the later Hornby model R550 #92166 Class 9f)

1972 R337S Railway Children Jinty

1978 R048 Collett 8750 L90 0-6-0PT (fitted with a smoke unit)