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Hi

Just started a new layout in a new shed

Sky Window Building Tree House

It will be a medium size terminus station with 5/6 platforms, goods yard and engine shed. I have built a lower storage area and reversing loop.

Hood Wood Tire Automotive exterior Floor

The gradient will be 1:50 using dcc concepts powerbase to allow up to 7 coach trains

The line will circle the room before arriving at the terminus. I will be testing as I go with my smallest loco a Bachmann Jinty and the poorest running one a Hornby Duchess.

Any comments are more than welcome

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That looks to be a good sized shed and very well made as far as one can tell from a picture.

In the second picture are the battens screwed to the wall for the upper part of the layout? If so then you have pit them quite a distance above the lower level. You are going to need a good long run at 1 in 50 to climb that high.

Good luck with the project. It will be interesting to see it develop.

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That's not a shed !!!!!


Looks very well built and an excellent hiding place, looking forward to seeing this progress.
 

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One of my friends commented it was a bit posh to be called a shed.

I spend 2-3 hours in there most days so it had to be comfortable..

The battens are 300mm above the storage sidings and are where the terminus station will be. So it will be a long slog up, 5 meters of which will be hidden under the scenery.

It seemed a shame to me when planning that a lot of space could be lost with hidden storage if it was all on the same level. Not being so agile as I once was I tried to give as much access as possible.

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How are you planning the change of hight ? A helix ?
 

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Hi Anthony

No helix, Just a long slog up 1:50. See photo.

Wood Stairs Floor Flooring Composite material

The gradient down is steeper at 1:30.

As you can see my wood working skills are pretty poor, not a right angle or straight cut in sight ( the photo makes it look worse than it is ). Lots of screws and glue to make up for it.

Now got as far as making a lifting panel for the door, trying to make it hinged without any future scenery getting in the way.

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The carpentry looks fine to me.

When constructing the lifting flap, be aware that the centres of the pins in the hinges need to be at least as high as the top of the rails. I would make them 1 or 2mm higher to be sure. Some people advocate making the hinges a lot higher than that, but it isn't really necessary. It may also be helpful if the other end of the flap is chamfered with the bottom slightly shorter than the top. Here's a picture of mine at an early stage.



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Hi Robert

Thanks for the advice, that is one idea I will be stealing. As I will have 2 lines crossing the flap a different levels I will make the hinge pins just higher than the highest one.

Many thanks

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Two tracks at different levels poses an extra problem. It means that the lower part of the flap has to be quite a bit shorter than the top. (It's all to do with Pythagoras rule and the length of the vertical diagonal.) The exact amount of shortening needed depends on the length of the flap and the vertical separation of the tracks. If you need help, tell me these measurements and I could advise. However, you can probably work it out yourself by trial and error or careful measurement.

Also how to disguise the hinge which is nearest the lower track is something to think about because it will stick up well above it. This will be more difficult if the lower track is the one nearest the viewer.

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"how to disguise the hinge "

My road bridge sits on top of the hinges I just remove it when I leave the garage
so you could just build a section of old line on a small bridge etc ??
 

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I have five tracks at different levels.

This is what my lift up started like.



And this is what it looks like now.
So you can hide it.

 

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This is the road bridge that sits on top of my hinges ..

 

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I notice on the last picture that Anthony has tracks crossing the gap at quite an angle. Try to avoid this if possible because it means you have to be particularly careful with alignment each side of the gap to avoid derailments. If Anthony has avoided them then he has done very well.

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QUOTE (Robert Stokes @ 2 Feb 2017, 15:05) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I notice on the last picture that Anthony has tracks crossing the gap at quite an angle. Try to avoid this if possible because it means you have to be particularly careful with alignment each side of the gap to avoid derailments. If Anthony has avoided them then he has done very well.

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Hi Robert ... all runs very smooth
the key is movement so use a good set of solid hinges and lock the lift up section in place when running locos.
 

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Hi

Thanks for all the replies. The front track will be lower than the others, but will be in a cutting so the hinge can be mostly hidden from view. The pictures are a great help. Just as an aside, how do you get your photo's to display at a larger size, when mine are small but with about the same pixel count.

Ta Derek
 

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I first transfer pictures to from my computer to the 'Photobucket' website. Then when viewing my library on that site I hover over the top left of the picture and a drop down menu appears. One of the options is 'share'. I click on that, then when the picture appears, I click on the bottom option which is IMG. Once that says 'copied' I transfer to this forum which is on another window and click 'paste'.

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Hi Peter

The shed is fully insulated and heated. It was built over a 6 week period by a friend of mine who normally builds loft extensions. Including an underground power cable, 2 large lorry loads of spoil and concrete base it came in at £18,000. A lot I know but it was planned for when the house was purchased. Most quotes I got off the internet for a comparable 20ft by 12ft lower spec sheds were at least £20,000.

Might be worth speaking to a local builder, he can use it as a fill in project. Mine was happy to work at ground level for a change.
 

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I spent yesterday measuring, cutting and chamfering the timber for the lifting panel. I then glued and screwed it together and left it overnight. This morning into the shed to fit it, really fitted well, much to my surprise. Then went to lift it up and... it hit the ceiling. Thinking cap back on.

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Thanks for that info about the shed Derek. I am house hunting at the moment and have no idea whether I will have space indoors for the layout but will definitely consider the shed option if not. There are lots of loft extensions in the area in which I am looking, so plenty of builders about with relevant expertise.
Regards,
Peter A
 
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