[Brian Considine]

Lima, Jouef, Rivarossi & Fleishmann (there may be others) have all produced (to differing standards) UK outline HO - I think the fact that Fleischmann are clearing out their stocks of UK HO (2 - Warships & 3 Bullied coaches) says it all.

The locos 4246 in green, 4247 in blue, coaches 5146 1st/3rd, 5147 3rd & 5148 3rd brake are still listed in the 2007/8 catalogue.

There is a British HO Society & of course the resoursful BRITHO of this very forum models UK HO.

I just don't think it will happen, not in my lifetime anyway.

What would I like to see in UK HO - any 2 Bullied Pacifics, 1 - original & 1 rebuilt to go with my rake of FLM coaches (loaned to BRITHO) of course, & maybe some more coaches for the HO Eurostar.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Ravenser @ 26 Jul 2008, 23:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't believe there is much of a market out there amongst HO modellers for British outline stock.
Admitted, it will never be huge but based on the feedback we get from HO modelers there is a little more than some people think. Quite a number would like to run the odd UK outline but object to running what amounts to "narrow gauge" to them.
There is of course the 66 & probably enough freight stock & CIWL that could be used without too much work.

But, if any locomotives were produced which ones are likely to sell ?
Famous locomotives such as the Mallard & Flying Scotsman would sell because they are famous (the latter could actually be used on some US & Australian layouts) & more "mundane" locomotives such as the 8F for the simple reason that they wandered about all over the place - there is also the "USA 0-6-0" as well. Another contender would be the GWR Prairie as one of them is AFAIK in Poland at the moment.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Richard Johnson @ 27 Jul 2008, 14:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>***Ummm You mean this one Alistair?? Roco model number 63922 - admittedly Danish railways, but it looks very 08 to me.

Richard
Been available in the Dutch version off & on (BRITHO has one) - although AFAIK it's not actually an 08.

Another ex UK loco used in over the water was the EM2.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (ben100 @ 27 Jul 2008, 14:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nobody ever seems to mention continental outline models in OO?
Will that ever see the day?
Hopefully not - although there almost certainly is some demand.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (alastairq @ 27 Jul 2008, 19:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why not a simple black or blue 08, minus those headlamps, of course?
Probably not enough possible sales - could be worth asking them though. Also the idea may be a little alien to the european mainstream manufactures.

 

[Brian Considine]

I wonder what the situation would have turned out like if, when Lima (& others) started to produce models in UK HO they were of vastly superior quality for the same, or less money to the offerings of Triang at the time ?

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (34C @ 3 Aug 2008, 19:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Fleischmann HO Warship and coaches were much superior to the Triang Hornby competition, and from a brand with a 'quality' reputation reasonably well known to UK railway modellers. Didn't sell anything like the necessary volume by all accounts, and since Fleischmann have (twenty years on?) yet to expand the range...
I did not mention the FLM offerings because of the limited range & the price (which was clearly unacceptable to the UK modeller of the time - about 30 year ago). The range was not expanded because it simply did not sell, there was talk of a Bullied Pacific but it did not appear.
Currently, many FLM Dealers have the Warships & coaches at well discounted prices. The Warships & coaches are still in the 2007/8 catalogue.
European manufactures at the time simply did not understand the need for a hybrid scale/gauge.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Dinwiddy @ 5 Aug 2008, 14:51) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Even the first Eurostars produced to HO by Hornby and Jouef as a joint anglo/french project sold very poorly (as they still do s/hand) if my shop was anything to go by!

David Y
Maybe the reason that there were no intermediate coaches available had a lot to do with it ?

Certainly it must have done over the water.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Rayden500 @ 7 Aug 2008, 16:13) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I second that.
So do I.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (34C @ 8 Aug 2008, 10:16) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The one sensible scenario I can see is on the introduction of a new type of loco or stock which runs in numbers in substantially the same form in mainland Europe and the UK. A manufacturer with both HO and OO ranges might find it rational to use one lot of research to produce models for both scales. But you would still find (as with the ROCO 08 or whatever it actually is) that the HO models would carry mainland European liveries, the OO models UK liveries, because the manufacturer knows full well what will sell in commercially viable numbers in each market.
How many locomotives (& rolling stock for that matter) are we talking about ? - maybe time to start a list ? we could start off with the 66 - an easy one as they are relatively new & out there in huge numbers in 1 : 1 scale.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (john woodall @ 9 Aug 2008, 00:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In todays environment it is about how often the same mold can be used for the same locomotive with different paint jobs.

Look at how many SBB 460's have been made by everyone.

John
Perfect example John (& probably the most numorous class of OHE's I have, although they are mostly "artworked" examples !)