No I haven't used them yet, but yes I'll be using them on my next layout and I have stock. It's a slow action motor unlike the Peco which can described as snap action. Their ideal for DCC operation and have polarity switching built into the circuit board. For quite a bit more you can attach the Hare. Full details on the URL Tony's Trains Circuiton
Where did the reference to Tortoise go ! he must have done a fast Edit !
One of my friends during a chat on the web mentioned it.
I was bragging abt that I blew up 2 point motors and that..He recommended it due to its slow action.
To be honest haven't heard of up till that day.
Thanks for the information and link.
I use Tortoises on my layout. I must have about 20. I like them. I am using Peco points and the over center spring has to be removed. I found the the steel wire provided (0.020" I believe) sometimes has trouble completing the point throw - so I changed to 0.032" wire for some of mine - that works better. The solenoid (snap) point motors are said to be hard on points. The nice thing is that you get two sets of contacts - I use the first to switch frog polarity (I HATE those wimbly tabs on the blades of Peco points). I use a cheap DC controller set to about 75% for power and yes there is a constant hum from the motors being constantly stalled out.
I have always used both Fulgurex and Lemaco Point motors. They have the advantage that the power is turned off at the end of the travel of the motor rather than ity being left to stall as on the Tortoise.
Fulgurex and Lemaco are very similar in operation and use similar components. I find them both very reliable. They are slow acting and each one has two spare relays, with room to add on another two if required.
I am using peco solenoids on peco points & tortoise on the hand made points so that they do not suffer the slam-bam of solenoids. They are a bit dearer than Peco but at least they have 2 changeover switches & I find that they are quiet even at the stall mode. I use 9v only & one of my Australian friends uses 6v & he indicates they are quieter again & still work OK.
The point blades have to be free moving though. A couple of years ago, I used Lemaco, work well but are noisy until they switch off - at least you know they are working.
I've promised a member here already to do a photo-review of the installation of these Tillig motors. I'll do it in the next week or two.
I've also been trying a combination of point motors with various point decoders and am coming to the conclusion that Tortoise are more hassle than they are worth. I will also be instaling Tillig point motors in the next week or so and they do seem to be easier than the Tortoise to install and aren't as big and bulky.
There is none of the associated problems of finding the correct diodes and installing them.
I'd like to use a slow action point motor like the Tortoise, but I only have 45mm clearance underneath my layout (it sits on the floor on its "metric 2 x 1" frame) so I've only used Peco and Seep solenoids so far. Is there a low-profile Tortoise-type motor?
I suppose I could use memory wire, but I'd have to make a few more mechanical bits than I'm used to for moving my Peco Code 55 N Gauge points and I'm worried about the power consumption while the points are in their "reverse" or "thrown" position. (Assuming the memory wire works against a spring that returns the points back to their "normal" position).
When I see a photo of a fiddle yard like that, I do think it is a shame that you can't always see them well at an exhibition. Not everyone can spend the time necessary to watch a complete run through at the front side of an exhibit, and if everyone stood there for that long, few would get to see anything.
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