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I thought that after the rip roaring success of my Towcaster locos thread I looked about the layout and thought there may be some interest in wagon rolling stock, so I thought to try this out on our avid readership.

So to kick matters off we have a couple of Wrenns, I have a very great many Wrenn wagons and love the rumble they make just like the real thing so as we go through there will be a lot of content not just Wrenn but others as well hopefully some that are interesting, sadly only about a third of my wagon stock is in use but we'll start with those that see some action, please feel free to comment, tell me I am wrong or whatever, just pile in.


A genuine Wrenn W5040 that was purchased by father many years ago probably about 1980

Meanwhile he also purchased another Wrenn Shell tanker but this one is the pre-war style of lettering, father was always fond of this one and said he never saw another one like it, I cannot find the reference in the Wrenn books by Maurice Gunter but it was definetly Wrenn, suppose I better find the box and the end tab reference number but a rare one for sure.

 

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I was thinking only the other day that so much emphasis is on the loco at the expense of the rolling stock. In many of the prototype photos the first few vehicles behind the loco have aroused my curiosity. I look forward to your posts with interest.
 

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Yep,keep 'em rollin'!
I love seeing model photos,my main weakness is coaching stock,so there's another thread for you.
Are these Wrenn tankers the same as Dublo ones?
I have a lot of those still,3 and 2 rail.
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Thanks for commenting, always feel free to post as well, more the merrier. Doublo wagons were originally metal bodied and then sometime about 1958 or so Dublo introduced the super detail plastic bodies, chassis were cast aluminium and wheels were fixed track plastic and this helped later with 2/3 rail although some very old ones had metal wheels but I have none this old.

The tanks remained metal bodied and some of them had old long gone oil company names such as Power Ethyl some of which carried over into the plastic bodied Wrenn era, sorry I am no expert but always willing to be corrected.

Father got hold of a large number of Wrenn chassis and he passed some to me, these often got other bodies like this one I think a Bachmann tank, being an unusual blue colour I quite like this one.

 

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Must admit, I have a few Dublo tanks both two and three rail, though not for long. I am slowly getting around to fitting new wheel set to them and adding a bit of roofing lead to bulk up the weight a tad.

Always try to line the tanks with plastic first to avoid dissimilar metal corrosion. Not very likely, but I prefer to err on the side of caution....

Will grab some phots and post them up soon.
 

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Here is a metal tank that has fallen off its chassis, the Hornby Dublo chassis had tabs for these tankers but this was removed from the HD chassis and fitted to a Wrenn one with some glue but serves to show the assembly.


The Wrenn chassis is here
 

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Those are the tanks I'm on about and next door to that Brotherton (which is'nt Dublo) do I see the old Triang conflat with 3 containers?
Had a couple of those once,quite liked them.
Grifter Guru-I would have thought Dublo tanks were heavy enough,save the lead for the 2 Bob Airfix minerals!!!
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Yep vintage Triang with 3 containers, this may be oldest new item I have as father must have purchased it about 1960 I do not have that much Triang stuff left.

 

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Back when locos meant steam and Hornby Dublo still made 3 rail, summers were always sunny and everyone was worried about global nuclear winters there were not many colourful wagons, the private owner deluge had not commenced and about the only colourful wagon was the United Glass Bottle Manufacturers Hornby Dublo one. This one has lost the H-D chassis and has a later Wrenn one, earlier aluminium cast chassis had solid in fill between the brake rods, so I had to get a couple of these because I always liked them as they were different.

 

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Hornby Dublo produced a conflat, you can see the wheel keepers that come up through the chassis/body to hold the axles in place, there were two alternate containers of the BD size a red normal one and a white insul container.

This model never carried over to Wrenn.


With the insul container
 

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QUOTE (kristopher1805 @ 22 May 2016, 21:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yep vintage Triang with 3 containers, this may be oldest new item I have as father must have purchased it about 1960 I do not have that much Triang stuff left.



The Conflat L, with "L" Type containers. These were used for powders, and limestone.

The Tri-ang model came out after 1963 (Plastic chassis, pin-point axles). The containers have two different numbers moulded into them....but not three different numbers!

Very often people mis-identify th eL type containers as "Transformers"....there is a resemblance.
 

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QUOTE (kristopher1805 @ 23 May 2016, 16:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Back when locos meant steam and Hornby Dublo still made 3 rail, summers were always sunny and everyone was worried about global nuclear winters there were not many colourful wagons, the private owner deluge had not commenced and about the only colourful wagon was the United Glass Bottle Manufacturers Hornby Dublo one. This one has lost the H-D chassis and has a later Wrenn one, earlier aluminium cast chassis had solid in fill between the brake rods, so I had to get a couple of these because I always liked them as they were different.



Hornby Dublo were always "prototype concious", and so did not make PO wagons in general, as these had mostly been taken over during WW2, and then nationalised. These were the "Pool" wagons.

Note the "Non-Pool" branding of the United Glass wagon. Some specialised wagons, for specific traffics, etc., including tank wagons, were not Pooled and remained Privately Owned, even after 1948 and BR...

The United Glass wagon was a specilised Sand carrying wagon (the real wagons have protected axle-boxes, to limit the ingress of sand!


A genuine BR era PO wagon...
 

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Thanks Sarah for the extra information and comments, So I now throw in a Hornby Dublo ventilated fitted van, these were knocked out in large numbers and unlike the later vans had a fixed roof but painted white, I never recall a white roof on any BR van but generally what I like about models from this era is that they are pretty much the correct colours but I like a range of vans all very slightly different.

This one has a later Wrenn chassis.
 

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Stevieow... Yes, dublo wagons have a weight all of their own, but I add lead to reach a "general" weight that helps keep them planted on the rails and also helps the wagons sound more prototypically heavy.

It also adds to the realism when it requires double heading to pull a certain train of suitably weighted wagons too...
 

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QUOTE (kristopher1805 @ 24 May 2016, 20:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks Sarah for the extra information and comments, So I now throw in a Hornby Dublo ventilated fitted van, these were knocked out in large numbers and unlike the later vans had a fixed roof but painted white, I never recall a white roof on any BR van but generally what I like about models from this era is that they are pretty much the correct colours but I like a range of vans all very slightly different.

This one has a later Wrenn chassis.


No problem...


There is a suggestion that the Hornby Dublo Vent Van had a white roof because it was based on an experimental wagon with a translucent (fibreglass probably) roof, to let the light in!

I think I read this in Michael Fosters Hornby Dublo History Book (New Cavendish...)
 

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Back in the late '60's Trix produced the first of the new wave of private owner wagons, they kept to simple colours and arranged them regionally, as father wanted Yorks and Lancs and especially the Calder and Colne Valleys so Issac Wilkinson apparently based at Mytholmroyd in the Calder Valley was popular, this one has been attached to a Wrenn aluminium chassis.

 

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That coal wagon looks like one of those Peco Wonderful wagons!
Sarah-that van,if it is supposed to represent a translucent roof version it has the wrong number,only the last 100 B784773-784872 had that feature,apparently made of polyester,so Kris,a quick pass with a rattle can....
By the way Kris,the weathering on that class 8 is fantastic-whoops wrong thread

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The Trix wagons were made to the "Trix Scale" of around 3.8mm to 1 foot.

This made the bodies about the correct length for 4mm OO, but a little narrow!

I believe that Trix were one of the first makers to use "Tampo Printing", and paint finishes over the base plastic.

I can see the likeness to the PECO "Wonderful Wagons", which used embossed card overlays on a Die-cast body.

There are quite a few of these PO wagons. Later made under the "Liliput" label, so the tooling if it survives could have passed to Bachmann Europe...

The HD vent van in front of me also carries the same number....B757051...
 

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You must be well informed Sarah so see what you make of the next ones.
Another Trix body this time for the West Riding colliery at Maltby.

 
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