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Hi-
Just moved to Australia from the USA and my Lionel Trains need help. The POWERMAX transformer is USA standard
and I really do not think it is a great Idea to use a converter or even an other transform to drop down from 220 to 110 because I think the cycles per second or Hertz might be a problem. 60 vs 50 hz.

HELP

Point is what do we do in Australia to run our Lionel trains?

THANKS

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QUOTE (Lionel Larry @ 26 Apr 2008, 17:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi-
Just moved to Australia from the USA and my Lionel Trains need help. The POWERMAX transformer is USA standard
and I really do not think it is a great Idea to use a converter or even an other transform to drop down from 220 to 110 because I think the cycles per second or Hertz might be a problem. 60 vs 50 hz.

HELP

Point is what do we do in Australia to run our Lionel trains?

THANKS

and HI to ALL

Hello Larry

Just buy the 240:110 converter - or a 240: correct Lionel voltage transformer.

The mains frequency will not be an issue.

Richard
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Hi Larry

Welcome to MRF - I think you are probably the only Lionel operator here. However what prompts this post is that I spent most of Saturday and Sunday at a small exhibition watching Lionel products going round. Not a common sight in the UK.

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 28 Apr 2008, 15:23) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not a common sight in the UK.

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Unfortunatly, the sound was monotonous all day Saturday - the chuffs did not appear to have any relationship to wheel revolutions or throttle openings !
 

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Hi Brian,
Been there, got the 'T' shirt on this one.
Ok, your correct in thinking that the hertz or power frequency is to blame.
The Lionel Powermax ( funny name considering its small 30W output) transformer is very similar to Lionel CW-80 (80W output) transformer. I understand the electronics are basicly the same.

The whistle and bell button circuits malfuntion on 50Hz power, leading to locomotives whistle and bell (if fitted) sounding in a continuous fashion. I don't recomend connecting one of these transformers to a 50Hz supply. They are designed for 60Hz operation only. You can get all sorts of overheating problems and cooling fan failure on the CW-80 if its used on a 50Hz supply.

Note: If you have a locomotive or roiling stock fitted with Lionel Trainsounds this also contains electronics that malfuntion on 50Hz with similar symptoms.

The solution to these problems is to use a high amp 230V AC to 12v DC power supply powering a
12V DC to 120V AC 60Hz pure sine inverter. For a 300W set up this will cost you about £100.

This has the added advantage that Lionel TMCC (command control) will operate correctly.

A large number of the Lionel Collectors Club UK use this set up to good effect.
http://www.lccuk.org.uk/lccuk

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Nick
 

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Just got some new information from Lionel's chief technical officer.
2009 model CW-80 and PowerMax 40W transformers have been revised to be 50Hz compatible.
Lionel Legacy command control is also confirmed as 50Hz compatible as are all 2008 model Legacy equiped locomotives.

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Nick
 
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