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QUOTE (trainman @ 10 Apr 2008, 15:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I remember seeing a set in OO as a child back in the 1950's and then got called a liar,
So do I - AFAIK they were made by (or marketed by) Ever Ready the battery people - what price now for collectors ?
So do I - AFAIK they were made by (or marketed by) Ever Ready the battery people - what price now for collectors ?
QUOTE (trainman @ 10 Apr 2008, 16:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>now they are made in OO and not sure who by, so N gauge is brilliant and I would love to see them. I know I will never be able to buy them though.
E.F.E. (Extremely Fine Editions) who make OO scale die-cast bus & coach models produce London Underground Trains in OO now. Each carriage has to be purchased individually and they are not motorised. Most power bogies will only pull 2 carriages so for a 4car set two are advisable. The one I fitted for someone involved more than alittle hacking of the floor!
Not cheap but they look good.
David Y
E.F.E. (Extremely Fine Editions) who make OO scale die-cast bus & coach models produce London Underground Trains in OO now. Each carriage has to be purchased individually and they are not motorised. Most power bogies will only pull 2 carriages so for a 4car set two are advisable. The one I fitted for someone involved more than alittle hacking of the floor!
Not cheap but they look good.
David Y
hi
i did try a few diffrent people to build me a n gauge set , but i only found one person that would do n gauge for me , they are made in plastic and can pull 10 carriages if needed , they can help with extra coaches , and can make them in any stock type , they are so so helpfull , i cant wait to get my first set . they will also do relistic dummy power rails .
i did try a few diffrent people to build me a n gauge set , but i only found one person that would do n gauge for me , they are made in plastic and can pull 10 carriages if needed , they can help with extra coaches , and can make them in any stock type , they are so so helpfull , i cant wait to get my first set . they will also do relistic dummy power rails .
QUOTE (Dinwiddy @ 10 Apr 2008, 17:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>E.F.E. (Extremely Fine Editions) who make OO scale die-cast bus & coach models produce London Underground Trains in OO now.
I thought it was Exclusive First Editions?
Regards
I thought it was Exclusive First Editions?
Regards
QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 10 Apr 2008, 16:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So do I - AFAIK they were made by (or marketed by) Ever Ready the battery people - what price now for collectors ?
Yes I had one when I was young (long time ago 1940's to 50's) It had three cars and a circle of track running with a battery pack as I remember. I doubt it resembled any real LUL train however.
Yes I had one when I was young (long time ago 1940's to 50's) It had three cars and a circle of track running with a battery pack as I remember. I doubt it resembled any real LUL train however.
I've found one on an auction site, but apart from that nothing.
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QUOTE Promotional Jubilee Line London Underground 3-car Set. Produced as a promotional giveaway by the Consulting Engineers for the Canary Wharf Extension and consists of 2 track sections allowing the train to be run backwards & forwards, Near Mint in Fair Box. Small unknown manufacturer & date Clockwork Table Railway, approx. 2" dia. And when wound up, the train goes round in a circle, Excellent Plus complete with key. (2)
Estimate: £50 - £60
Bidding is now closed on this item
Unsoldf
Web page is http://www.vectis.co.uk/auccat.php?auction...+Gauge+Railways
although bidding is closed it is unsold and you might be able to contact the seller. I dont know how these things work
However:
QUOTE Promotional Jubilee Line London Underground 3-car Set. Produced as a promotional giveaway by the Consulting Engineers for the Canary Wharf Extension and consists of 2 track sections allowing the train to be run backwards & forwards, Near Mint in Fair Box. Small unknown manufacturer & date Clockwork Table Railway, approx. 2" dia. And when wound up, the train goes round in a circle, Excellent Plus complete with key. (2)
Estimate: £50 - £60
Bidding is now closed on this item
Unsoldf
Web page is http://www.vectis.co.uk/auccat.php?auction...+Gauge+Railways
although bidding is closed it is unsold and you might be able to contact the seller. I dont know how these things work
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These are perhaps the biggest supplier of Tube stock for 4 mm in the UK.
http://www.radleymodels.co.uk/index.php
4mm Scale Tube Stock is also available from these people
http://www.metromodels.net/about_us.htm
London Underground District Line locomotives from Silver Fox ( 4mm )
http://www.silverfoxmodels.co.uk/lu/1905.htm
I also think i have seen somewhere that Roxy Mouldings do some of the older Tube stock coachs etc ?? not sure but they might
Hope this helps everyone
Nikki
- Still would like to see some 2mm stock for london underground but havent found any yet.!!!!
http://www.radleymodels.co.uk/index.php
4mm Scale Tube Stock is also available from these people
http://www.metromodels.net/about_us.htm
London Underground District Line locomotives from Silver Fox ( 4mm )
http://www.silverfoxmodels.co.uk/lu/1905.htm
I also think i have seen somewhere that Roxy Mouldings do some of the older Tube stock coachs etc ?? not sure but they might
Hope this helps everyone
Nikki
- Still would like to see some 2mm stock for london underground but havent found any yet.!!!!
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I worked for London Transport Executive/London Regional Transport/London Underground Ltd/Metronet Rail Ltd for 32 years before taking early retirement in January 2007 to set up my own consultancy.
I still have some interest in the Underground, but the only 'N' gauge models I've ever seen were the tube train that runs deep in the bowels of the Model Railway Club's 'Copenhagen Fields' layout and a Mr Dollimore who lived in the Medway Towns and built an 'N' gauge London Transport depot layout.
If you want it in N, then it looks like scratch building it!
Cheers,
Dave,
MD - Rail Audit Services Ltd
http://www.railauditservices.com
I still have some interest in the Underground, but the only 'N' gauge models I've ever seen were the tube train that runs deep in the bowels of the Model Railway Club's 'Copenhagen Fields' layout and a Mr Dollimore who lived in the Medway Towns and built an 'N' gauge London Transport depot layout.
If you want it in N, then it looks like scratch building it!
Cheers,
Dave,
MD - Rail Audit Services Ltd
http://www.railauditservices.com
QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 10 Apr 2008, 16:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So do I - AFAIK they were made by (or marketed by) Ever Ready the battery people - what price now for collectors ?
Thank you for confirming this.
Thank you for confirming this.
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QUOTE (jjb @ 18 Apr 2008, 13:54) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes I had one when I was young (long time ago 1940's to 50's) It had three cars and a circle of track running with a battery pack as I remember. I doubt it resembled any real LUL train however.
They had more than a passing resemblence to the 1940 ex SR Waterloo and City stock but painted in red. Their numbers are increasingly rarer as they were made of a zinc alloy known as Zamak, which means that they will decompose and literally turn into dust! If you have one keep it away from light and the elements and make body moulds or patterns first to replace the bodies with modern durable materials, i.e. plastics, resins, tinplate, brass, etc.
Dave
They had more than a passing resemblence to the 1940 ex SR Waterloo and City stock but painted in red. Their numbers are increasingly rarer as they were made of a zinc alloy known as Zamak, which means that they will decompose and literally turn into dust! If you have one keep it away from light and the elements and make body moulds or patterns first to replace the bodies with modern durable materials, i.e. plastics, resins, tinplate, brass, etc.
Dave
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hi' my dad purchased two sets of 1938 stock tubes' 00 scale for his lay out' 3 car sets. well'they were bad runners' skidding' slipping' going hardly nowhere. they each had two beetle motors each end' they were fitted with lights' maybe they were drawing to much power lights and all. he doesnt use them now 'still lets hope the 'n' gauge ones are better. wonder if they can be converted to dcc?
I used to have a free pass for the UndergrounD...............
when I worked out of New Cross Depot [London TransporT], New Cross was the terminus for the [Whitechapel??] line....and seemed to be the repository for ancient UndergrounD stock..wooden coaches, with clerestory roofs, etc......is my memory right in thinking they had wood floors?
[that was at the time Harrow depot still had a LT Scooter.... a while after they had been supposedly withdrawn [6-wheel AEC saloon]
when I worked out of New Cross Depot [London TransporT], New Cross was the terminus for the [Whitechapel??] line....and seemed to be the repository for ancient UndergrounD stock..wooden coaches, with clerestory roofs, etc......is my memory right in thinking they had wood floors?
[that was at the time Harrow depot still had a LT Scooter.... a while after they had been supposedly withdrawn [6-wheel AEC saloon]
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Yes Alastair,
I still have a free pass for Underground, Buses, Trams, Docklands Light Railway and soon discount on River services, except that its marked 'Retired' - I had 32 years with London Transport Executive/London Regional Transport/London Underground Ltd/Metronet Rail starting off in the Chief Civil Engineers department within the Bridges & Structures office, then to Permanent Way Design Office, then Minor Works Projects, then Fleet Engineering where I first went into Health, Safety and Quality and took an early retirement with enhanced deferred pension after finishing my career (or so I thought) as a Supply Assurance Auditor with Metronet.
Set up my own company undertaking Quality Management consultancy and auditing for small and medium businesses and just returned back to the railway as contract auditor on the Blackfriars Project.
I remember New Cross Depot very well - it was a tip! But the East London Line had its own character now being rapidly eroded within the new London Overground line due to open in 2010 or 2011?
Cheers,
Dave
I still have a free pass for Underground, Buses, Trams, Docklands Light Railway and soon discount on River services, except that its marked 'Retired' - I had 32 years with London Transport Executive/London Regional Transport/London Underground Ltd/Metronet Rail starting off in the Chief Civil Engineers department within the Bridges & Structures office, then to Permanent Way Design Office, then Minor Works Projects, then Fleet Engineering where I first went into Health, Safety and Quality and took an early retirement with enhanced deferred pension after finishing my career (or so I thought) as a Supply Assurance Auditor with Metronet.
Set up my own company undertaking Quality Management consultancy and auditing for small and medium businesses and just returned back to the railway as contract auditor on the Blackfriars Project.
I remember New Cross Depot very well - it was a tip! But the East London Line had its own character now being rapidly eroded within the new London Overground line due to open in 2010 or 2011?
Cheers,
Dave
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The problem with the EFE tube trains when motorised is that there is way too much friction from all the non-pinpoint trailing axles, even after removing the metal support plates that act as handbrakes! I have yet to find a good solution to this problem, although I am working on it (slowly!).
Adding to Nikki's list of 4mm scale suppliers, Little Bus Company offers resin C stock kits as pairs of coaches, one driving motor, one trailer, which is essentially how the real C69 and C77 stock is made up. Their web site is http://www.little-bus.com/. She beat me to the others!!
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Adding to Nikki's list of 4mm scale suppliers, Little Bus Company offers resin C stock kits as pairs of coaches, one driving motor, one trailer, which is essentially how the real C69 and C77 stock is made up. Their web site is http://www.little-bus.com/. She beat me to the others!!
New Cross bus depot..where I worked, wasn't too bad back in the real LT days....it boasted the first example of LT's attempt to recruit/retain staff....a completely re-worked staff canteen.
which included CARPETS...posh restaurant seating, a 'quiet' area where crews could relax in a convivial atmosphere....even a full bank of posh food/drinks dispensers for those times when the kitchens were closed...
'relaxy-mood' music was piped in too...
Surprisingly it was a place a lot of staff could feel happy to use OFF-DUTY....
This contrasted with the gents toilet/showers/ clean-up room....which although spotlessly clean, still boasted the full-length mirror by the exit, with it's full height check list in gold printing, so one could confirm one's appearance coincided with London TransporT dress code regulations.
Amazingly, London TransporT actually held cookery competitions each year, with the chefs from every canteen competing.....most of my daily driving was based out of Waterloo Bus Stand, as it was known then...not a garage or bus station...public access was not encouraged.....but it too, had an excellent canteen, the manageress of which was a frequent competition winner.....and it showed with the qualityand variety of food served.
[Waterloo bus stand was located a short way up the side street that was situated right opposite the Old Vic Theatre....I recall the pleasure and mirth engendered when, one night, a conceited Rolls-Royce owner, who had parked opposite the bus stand exit...preventing safe egress [no power steering on our buses]...had his car hoicked away on the back of one of those old Met flatbeds with the lifeboat davits, for removing unlawfully-parked cars.... Reg Varney almost had it right too]
which included CARPETS...posh restaurant seating, a 'quiet' area where crews could relax in a convivial atmosphere....even a full bank of posh food/drinks dispensers for those times when the kitchens were closed...
'relaxy-mood' music was piped in too...
Surprisingly it was a place a lot of staff could feel happy to use OFF-DUTY....
This contrasted with the gents toilet/showers/ clean-up room....which although spotlessly clean, still boasted the full-length mirror by the exit, with it's full height check list in gold printing, so one could confirm one's appearance coincided with London TransporT dress code regulations.
Amazingly, London TransporT actually held cookery competitions each year, with the chefs from every canteen competing.....most of my daily driving was based out of Waterloo Bus Stand, as it was known then...not a garage or bus station...public access was not encouraged.....but it too, had an excellent canteen, the manageress of which was a frequent competition winner.....and it showed with the qualityand variety of food served.
[Waterloo bus stand was located a short way up the side street that was situated right opposite the Old Vic Theatre....I recall the pleasure and mirth engendered when, one night, a conceited Rolls-Royce owner, who had parked opposite the bus stand exit...preventing safe egress [no power steering on our buses]...had his car hoicked away on the back of one of those old Met flatbeds with the lifeboat davits, for removing unlawfully-parked cars.... Reg Varney almost had it right too]
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