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I have to say I don't recognise the type.

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Sorry me niether!
 

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OK, maybe look at this in a different way?

Can anybody point me in the direction of some very fine non-offensive 00 couplings that I can still use with a fully detailed buffer beam ?

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Kadees? I know that on some of my stuff the manufacture states to leave off the buffer beam detailing if using close couplings.
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Or get in touch with Brian Considine as he gave me some very good advice on this subject
 

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Brian is a regular poster on this forum. Do a member search and you'll find him. Then PM him as Im sure he'll be very helpful!
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Brian who - never heard of him


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What a fool I am, Brian has posted on my other post about EM wheels


The penny dropped after clicking the link to his PM and seeing his little pic used by his posts.

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The coupling in the photo is the Alex Jackson. This is a very specialist "home made" coupling. I have never seen it used on "modern image" before. It is not really suitable for OO , it is more suited to S4 models. Unless you are very experienced or very good don't think of using them.

If you are modelling OO kadee couplings could be a good idea and many people use them - especially for diesel era models. If done properly kadee couplers are undoubtedly the best "off the shelf" couplers in the world. The problem is that most times I've seen OO layouts using kadees they have at best been done averagely and the user is not getting as good performance from them as he/she could if they had spent more time on them - the layout owners still ususally says that they are very pleased with them, but British modellers are very easily pleased because the standard British style coupler is so useless.
 

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"Unless you are very experienced or very good don't think of using them."

I am the guy that works for Oxford Diecast making their master models ready for China to copy and produce in mass for you all to buy. With these sorts of skills, do you think I would be experienced or good enough to use Alex Jackson's couplings?

The reason why I ask is, because my mate has used these couplings on the layout that this loco came from, and he liked them big time. I also like them because they hardly show on the loco. My layout (when built) will be mainly an end to end shunting depo for Hydraulics and only ever pulling a coach or two, or maybe 3 wagons.

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Nice collection of helicopters, but I couldn't see any model railway couplings!
If it is the Alex Jackson coupling there are some interesting developments being reported elsewhere http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php...jackson#p580440 regarding an etched jig to make the manufacture easier, and I believe that someone else has produced a jig for locating uniformly.
There's no reason why they cannot be used on modern stock, searching on the same website comes up with several examples of that genre. AFAIK there is also no reason why they cannot be used on OO stock, unless you are using smaller radius curves and coarser wheels - the problem is the need to limit side play, as the contact width of the two couplings as they approach each other is fairly small - so fine scale wheels at the correct BTB and reasonable curves should work.
 

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Hello Rob

Firstly, from your qualifications with regards your job you are obviously good enough to make these couplings - no issue. So let's forget that issue. BTW I have had 50 years experience in the hobby and I am not good enough to consider using Jackson couplings on my stock.

Secondly, as Nick says the coupling relies on the vehicles being parallel to the track as the contact are between two mating couplers is so small. Therefore any tendency for a 4 wheel vehicle to be slewed will mean that those couplings will not make contact. Using the Jackson coupling does require precision. S4 wheel standards by definition allow less slop a wagon is far more likely to be "straight and parallel - I don't disagree with Nick, but I still think that S4 standards would be better suited to this coupling. The only layouts I have seen over the years that use Jackson couplings have tended to be S4 - I do not model in S4, I am not promoting S4, I am just saying that the relatively coarse standards used in OO make the job more difficult. Also it is important that the couplings stay well adjusted - it is not a case of "fire and forget" - it is a case of maintaining the couplings in tip top condition.

There are loads of couplings out there for 4mm modelling - and choice of couplings is a very personal one. Often it will depend on whether you are in involved in a group project or to what extent you mix with fellow modellers. If you model in isolation it doesn't matter if you use bent paper clips to join your vehicles as long it suits you. If you are going to work with your friend who uses Alex Jackson then that would be a great plus for you using it too.

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QUOTE (rbush @ 5 Feb 2009, 20:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am the guy that works for Oxford Diecast making their master models ready for China to copy

So now we know! Keep up the good work (any chance of a Thames Trader?)

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QUOTE relatively coarse standards used in OO make the job more difficult

I see, I did not consider that. Thanks for the reply.


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I'll ask the boss


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QUOTE I am the guy that works for Oxford Diecast making their master models

I have a suggestion for the Oxford website / packaging if you would indulge me?

I model '50s ere British steam but I'm too young to remember any of the vehicles of that time. It would help me a lot in choosing models if the website could give an indication of their years of production....

My small collection of cars might grow faster


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QUOTE (dwb @ 6 Feb 2009, 19:15) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a suggestion for the Oxford website / packaging if you would indulge me?

I model '50s ere British steam but I'm too young to remember any of the vehicles of that time. It would help me a lot in choosing models if the website could give an indication of their years of production....

My small collection of cars might grow faster


David

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Hi Rob,

Have you had a look at Dingham couplers. I model in N Gauge so can't use them but they look pretty good. The web site is http://www.dingham.co.uk/4mm_coupler.htm

I tried the Microtrains couplers (N Gauge version of Kadee) but found that they required major surgerty to locos and rolling stock so abandoned using them.

Other couplers I am experimenting with are DG Couplers and B&B Couplers. The DGs are a little complicated to build as they requre soldering whereas the B&B are just folded and assembled without any soldering. Both look a darned sight better than Rapidos.
 
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