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In addition to those already mentioned, the list in OO RTR is pretty short. Most of the models typically represent the class concerned in the grouping or BR era; and some barely squeak into the 'Victorian' category, with just a few constructed in the last year or two of the 19th Century.
Hornby
GWR Dean Goods (and the 14XX is very similar to the 517 design and could be backdated?)
Old Smokey 0-4-0T was a Neilson design used on both the Caledonian and North British Railways
J52 Great Northern Railway
M7 London and South Western Railway

Bachmann
J72 North Eastern Railway
(3FT could be backdated to original Midland condition?)
(The promised Super D 0-8-0 could be backdated to a London and North Western Railway original condition?)

Shouldn't think there is an authentic coach to be had, maybe one or two wagons.

And the GWR Broad gauge is very much 'Victorian' finally failing in 1892.
 

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QUOTE (swik1 @ 17 Dec 2007, 22:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why do you think that pre-1900 and early 1900 locos are hard to get in rtr format?
There are several contributing reasons, but I suspect that three dominate.

Until relatively recently it was difficult to fit a decent mechanism into many of the physically small locomotives of that time. In the UK ''the big engine era' began circa 1900. Prior to that, with only a few exceptions locomotives had small boilers, positioned with low centrelines, and very 'skinny' tenders. If you look at Hornby's Dean Goods model, and compare it to the real thing, the tender has had to be compromised to accomodate the available style of drive. (This can now be done significantly better at an acceptable price.)

There were many 'iconic' classes in the Victorian era. The GNR Stirling singles, LNWR 'Bloomers' and 'Jumbos', NER 'Tennants' and LBSCR 'Gladstones' perhaps some of the most notable. Their service operation is now practically outwith human memory, and all the reminder the public has is a static exhibit in a museum at best. These were express passenger machines, and of little use on other work once displaced by the bigger engines, so usually quickly scrapped. (Compare to the survivors from that era still in service in living memory, these were secondary classes, retained usually for lightness. Terriers, Radial tanks, Beattie well tanks, Choppers, Buckjumpers, J15's, Dean Goods and various others served out 60 + years to near the end of steam operation on the by-ways of the network; consequently a few of these have been available RTR.)

Finally, lack of knowledge. Proverbially, 'the past is a foreign country' and it requires a lot more research to build a model when so much of the evidence is concealed or erased by later development. Basic stuff like typical train formations, working practises, track layouts, and the general look and feel of the surroundings are far less accessible. (Which hasn't stopped some people making a very interesting job of modelling earlier times.)
 

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QUOTE (poliss @ 18 Dec 2007, 17:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.. the Bachmann OO BR J72 Tank 68727 has Victorian origins, but how much it was modified I don't know ..
In terms of exterior appearance, very little. It barely makes it as 'Victorian' as it first emerged in 1898, although very similar in appearance to a slightly larger wheeled class, (LNER classification J71) of circa 1885.
 
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