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I really dont like those yellow plastic ends. it looks like a throwback to the 90's but hay it would make a good detailing/weathering project.

Peter

 

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"I suggest that the critics be a little "gentle" on the manufacture for there first effort, it's a learning curve for them, suggest rather than complain, praise where due & they will probably produce more UK models of locos that the modeller wants. I get the impression that they are more willing to learn than some."

I agree they do seem willing to learn but also dont forget that they are not new to this. they are former lima workers that watched their company go down the loo.

They did know that the unpainted ends were going to look lousey and they did it anyway. its not like they have made a mistake in the design.
i find bad decisions far less forgivable than the odd detail error here and there.

Peter

 

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sorry but the yellow ends are not so easy to fix. even with painted interior.
its not just that light is seeping through fromt he inside. its that the plastic is not totally opaque. it will always look plastickey. the ends will need a repaint. that means spray paint, gloss varnish, transfers, satin varnish.

Do you really want to go through all that hastle?

As i said before this is not a minor detail issue. this is simply down to the quality of the model. and i find that depressing.

Peter

 

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"do people really expect £200 quality for £50 ?"
No but we do expect £50 quality for £50. i think for £50 we should be able to expect painted ends.
for £200 i would expect a metal model with on board DCC and good sound with all axle drive and excellent detail and dimensions correct to within 1mm. i would even go so far as to say i would like something along the lines of dynadrive or a centrifugal clutch.

i too like the fact that its made in the EU but i wouldnt regard that as a plus point when it comes to handing over money. I know a few US companies are using "made in the US" as a bit of an excuse for poor products.
the products should be things for which the country can be proud. when china is turning out excellent hornby and bachmann loco's i dont really think the new 37 falls into that catagory.

Peter

 

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"Welcome to UK 4mm D+E.... "

yep. i am actually quite supprised that bachmann have retooled the 37 for the third time. i was actually under the impression they were giving up on D+E because it was just too difficult.
I wonder if they now budget for a retool when they produce a model.

Peter

 

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"Old Lima and Hornby stuff seems to have a good shape to me and millions like me."

I dont think it was gary. it was just what they were palming us off with at the time. i think for many years the mags were not nearly harsh enough and so they got away with giving us poor products.

Luclely this is the age of the internet and we are no longer reliant on magazines to influence manufacturers.

It was because of lima and hornby that i went into american modelling and it wasnt untill hornby went super detail that i came back.

"I am afraid that forums that are full of that sort of tosh are a total bore." i dont think its just the forums. i think its more the generation that tend towards D+E modelling. I once went on a Diesel railtour and there was one person that lent out of the wondow so far he broke his arm on a bridge! that was bad enough but then he refused to get of the train and go to hospital. holding up the train for several minutes.
i went on another where fights broke out in the carridge and saw scenes that could only be described as sheer vandalism. i know its just a minority but its scenes like that that are the reason D+E enthusiasts have such a poor reputation.

Peter