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Hello. Waddon South is an imaginary terminus set in the mid to late 1950's. It was never intended to be a terminus, or be called Waddon South! My original plan was to model an imaginary station on the West Croydon-Wimbledon line. The problem was that the layout is built in a small L-shaped box room and fitting in two workable fiddle-yards proofed to be impossible, so the plan changed. Even now the fiddle-yard space is very restricted. The layout is built along two walls of the room and measures 6'6" by 7'6" and is 12" wide, widening out to 3' wide at one end.
Construction
Baseboards are made from 6mm ply mounted on 2x1 battens and attached to the walls with large shelf brackets.
Track is Peco Code 75 with live frog points. The 3rd rail bits are also Peco. Control is DC using a small Gaugemaster controller and the point motors are a mixture of SEEP and Peco.
The majority of the buildings on the layout are from the Scalescenes range of downloadable kits, all modified in some way to suit their locations. The barn in the rag & bone mans yard is the old Superquick kit recovered in Scalescenes building papers. Most of the buildings have interior details and lighting fitted.
The backscene was made up from images found online, resized to fit, printed out and, after carefully cutting out, stuck onto a Gaugemaster sky backscene.
All the figures are either Dart Castings, Scalelink or Mike Pett.
Signals are Ratio, and the other bits and pieces on the layout are from various manufacturers.
An Imaginary History
I like my layouts to have a back story and to fit in to the real world, so I always come up with some sort of 'might have been' scenario. In my fictional history, the area to the south of Croydon became built up much earlier than it actually did (during late Victorian times rather than the 1930's), which led the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway to build a single track branch line from the West Croydon-Epsom line near Waddon station to the the new development at what became known as Waddon South. The line had steady commuter traffic but limited freight until the 1920's when Croydon Airport and the Purley Way Croydon bypass were opened nearby. With the bypass came a host of new factories bringing a lot of freight to the line, along with extra traffic generated by the airport. On the layout there is is no room to model much in the way of goods facilities, just one factory and a coal yard, so it is assumed that most of the freight is handled off-scene with goods trains reversing at the station and heading off down a goods only line back to the fiddle-yard. With the ever increasing commuter traffic the line was electrified in the 1930's.
A Description of the Layout
The fiddle-yard consists of three roads for the main line, a single goods line and a very short line from the on-scene factory. As I say, it is very restricted and lots of hand shunting goes on! There are two shelves beneath the baseboard with three unpowered tracks on each which serve as an overflow.
Window Building Urban design Paint Residential area

This is the entry point to the fiddle-yard. The main and goods only lines run beneath the brick bridge, whilst on the left is the Standard Steel works with it's own siding also heading into the fiddle-yard.
Train Rolling stock Window Vehicle Building

The line then passes the signal box and P-Way yard.
Building World Urban design Window Paint

A sharp curve passed Alston's factory takes the line into the station, passing over a culverted stream.
Train Vehicle Track Mode of transport Urban design

The station itself consists of a single island platform, a carriage siding and loco stabling siding, and a small coal yard (still under construction).
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The station forecourt.
In the town scene I have tried to capture what I remember of that 1960's South London atmosphere.
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Bus Window Building Vehicle Motor vehicle
Building Window Property House Urban design
Building Window Vehicle Wheel Motor vehicle


The end of the line
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Spot on with the Sarf London suburbs atmos. I can convince myself of having visited 'Top Note Records'; somewhere in the Orpington area in the mid sixties, most likely on a trip with my Pa to visit one of his collaborator's in matters of hi-fi sound reproduction, and on the way hunting for rare rep. from dealers.
 

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Nice layout idea a bit unusual especially being electrified and fair enough goods traffic was slipping away by this time so has the look of authenticity.
 

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I love that night photo at the end (y)
 

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Spot on with the Sarf London suburbs atmos. I can convince myself of having visited 'Top Note Records'; somewhere in the Orpington area in the mid sixties, most likely on a trip with my Pa to visit one of his collaborator's in matters of hi-fi sound reproduction, and on the way hunting for rare rep. from dealers.
Hi-Fi - that's a term you don't hear very often these days!
 

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Hi-Fi - that's a term you don't hear very often these days!
I have 'the bug' - that's my expensive hobby - caught from my Pa when I was still in short trousers. It's been a great solace these last couple of years, denied visits to live concerts much of the time.
 

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Smashing stuff, takes me back to my first days working for BR(S) in the S&T. I was based at Blackfriars/Holborn Viaduct and whilst it was all Blue EPB's and a 33 on a coal train to Walworth Road once a week this really captures this part of London. May I ask is the terminus on the 6'6" side of the room, I ask as I have a slightly similar space which I am trying to determine a usable 'urban style' track plan for, my space is 7'11" x 4'3" with a probable maximum width of up to 20" on the long side.
 

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Smashing stuff, takes me back to my first days working for BR(S) in the S&T. I was based at Blackfriars/Holborn Viaduct and whilst it was all Blue EPB's and a 33 on a coal train to Walworth Road once a week this really captures this part of London. May I ask is the terminus on the 6'6" side of the room, I ask as I have a slightly similar space which I am trying to determine a usable 'urban style' track plan for, my space is 7'11" x 4'3" with a probable maximum width of up to 20" on the long side.
Thanks. The station is on the 6'6" side. The platforms will just about hold a 5 coach train but in practice this never happens as the fiddle-yard is not long enough. As the majority of the passenger services on the layout are handled by 2-coach EMU's this isn't really a problem, but having to limit goods trains to 10 or so wagons can get a bit frustrating!
 

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If you Google and find 537 Mitcham Road, you'll find the house where I was born, in 1952, and you'll soon figure out why some of my earliest solo trainspotting memories were on the bridge at Waddon Marsh Halt. You'll need at least one W tank (pretty sure there was a gasworks nearby there) and I also have a few C2X in my CV from this era too, so if doing the 50's you might need these for the local freight to Wimbledon. Heading North from the Purley Way Roundabout, you'll find Gonville Road Primary School, off Thornton Road, my first seat of learning.
Thanks for the memories.
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If you Google and find 537 Mitcham Road, you'll find the house where I was born, in 1952, and you'll soon figure out why some of my earliest solo trainspotting memories were on the bridge at Waddon Marsh Halt. You'll need at least one W tank (pretty sure there was a gasworks nearby there) and I also have a few C2X in my CV from this era too, so if doing the 50's you might need these for the local freight to Wimbledon. Heading North from the Purley Way Roundabout, you'll find Gonville Road Primary School, off Thornton Road, my first seat of learning.
Thanks for the memories.
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Yep, the C2X's were regulars on that line and the W's also visited from time to time. I've also seen photos of Classes E4, E2, U and BR Standard 2-6-4T's at Waddon marsh. There was a gas works there and also Croydon A and B power stations which had their own loco's to work the extensive sidings.
 

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Smashing stuff, takes me back to my first days working for BR(S) in the S&T. I was based at Blackfriars/Holborn Viaduct and whilst it was all Blue EPB's and a 33 on a coal train to Walworth Road once a week this really captures this part of London. May I ask is the terminus on the 6'6" side of the room, I ask as I have a slightly similar space which I am trying to determine a usable 'urban style' track plan for, my space is 7'11" x 4'3" with a probable maximum width of up to 20" on the long side.
Many thanks, understand your thoughts re platform and fiddle yard length. At Holborn Viaduct there were originally 6 platforms, only 3 were electrified and they could only hold 8 cars - just! In the am peak we had one Corridor train, all the rest were EPB's, this was formed 2x2HAP and 1 x 4CEP as 2 x CEPS was too long.
 

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Hi

I spent many hours in Wandle park as a child, whilst my parents played bowls. The loco's in the gas works I believe were Saddle tanks which looks odd to my eyes. I was in the park on the day the cooling towers were blown up.

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Croydon gas works did have an eclectic selection of steam locos. In the fifties there was "Allen Lambert" an Aveling Porter traction engine type, which survived until 1955. There was a fairly standard saddle tank named "Moss Bay" from Kerr Stuart which stayed until 1968 and a Sentinel shunter called "Joyce" arrived new in 1927 and also left for preservation in 1968. The Sentinel was similar to the Somerset and Dorset Joint examples. Finally a large chunky G Avonside 0-4-0 saddle tank, called "Elizabeth" arrived from the Sydenham gas works in 1955, ultimately presevered in 1969. There were also seven four-wheeled battery locos involved with the coking section of the works.
The neighbouring electricity works also had steam locos, including three Pecketts which looked slightly unusual as they had lowered cabs to suit a wagon tippler. These were replaced eventually by a fleet of diesels and the other electricity works, on the other side of the tracks, had an overhead wire electric loco, which was superseded by an orthodox Bagnall saddle tank.
 
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