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QUOTE (Lancashire Fusilier @ 6 Aug 2008, 09:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I know Ricahrd at DCC Concepts has a product that does exactly that but I think it has 8 sections of occupancy however it is really simple to set up and requires no track cutting. I am sorely tempted down this path myself and may well buy one for a play.

*** DCCconcepts does indeed have a detector that is simple to install and use.

Its frowned on to "self promote" (I agree with this policy by the way as too much commercial stuff will compromise the forums quality).

....As a direct comment has been made I will describe it here, however any specific questions re purchase should be direct to DCCconcepts or Euroscale (They have stock I think) or Bromsgrove models (their stock will be with them this week)

It uses Light dependent resistors for detection so needs no cutting of track or track circuits at all. It requires average room light to operate, however hidden or tunnel areas can still be used via installation of a superbight red LED to provide light.

Each detector of the 8 detectors on the PCB is independent of the others and has individual sensitivity adjustment. Each of the 8 has 4 operating modes which are set via a simple switch.

operating modes are
on only for the time the LDR is covered by stock or train
on for ten sceonds after LDR is covered by stock or train
on until next detector in sequence is triggered (not available on detector #8 as there is no "next" detector :)
on until ANY of the other detectors on the board is triggered.

It is not sensitive to wiring length and needs only light wire to connect sensors and any output devices.

Outputs will drive a mini relay or LED directly. it will also directly drive MASTERswitch.

There is a Sister product (quad relay board) available - this will drive directly from the detector using only two wires between them. It has 4 DPDT relays onboard.

Other details available by emailing me off forum at [email protected]

Regards
Richard
 

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QUOTE (ben100 @ 6 Aug 2008, 17:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi
From what I understand, these detectors could or would, as soon as they detect a train, set off, say, a light signal or any other signal?
Would they set off a set of points?

*** Yes, that is correct - they can directly control signals and also with the correct interface, points.

I have a demo in my showroom which does both - it changes points to prevent overrun with he point set against a train, and changes signals at the same time. Several MRF members are currently using them with great success too!

BTW, to clarify Sols comment, my showroom has ONLY flourescents and there is no issue at all with any form of chattering or other problems - Sols problems are a combination of shielding of the LED from direct light by his backscene and the flourescents he is using, which are quite low powered.

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QUOTE (ben100 @ 6 Aug 2008, 21:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What sort of interface is needed for that?
Otherwise thanks,
Ben

***MASTERswitch, MASTERswitch V2 or MASTERswitch PLUS, with a small optoelectic interface that we will provide at no charge to MS users for this sort of application.

Its purpose is to turn the output of any form of detector into a simple switch command, and it does it nicely, needing only one negative output from the detector daisy chained to all MASTERswitch, with the positive wire (s) then connected to the point direction that is desired.

In our demo setup for example, we use two of the LDR sensing devices placed between the rails on the heel sides of the points in a crossover, these are both connected to a single channel of the detector board. This channel is then connected to the MS controlling the points via the OPTOelectic interface (its just three wires in, 3 out).

When either sensor is triggered, the crossover changes to "straight" therefore preventing derailments automatically.

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QUOTE (ben100 @ 7 Aug 2008, 03:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Where on the DCCconcepts site does it mention that? I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere?

*** Hi Ben, it doesn't - the website is sorely in need of refreshing. If U send me a direct email to [email protected] I will send you the instructions as a .MDI file (Microsoft document imaging) or PDF (PDF is a large file though)

Richard
 
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