was it Bulleid's Leader?
What is it
I was watching a recording of an old cinefilm from 1963 last night, and at the end of the clip it showed a loco standind at criclkewood london, it looked like a larger than normal Q1, but the tender was an unusual shape, it looked like a tender used on american locos, in that from the cab going backwards, it was level for about a third of its length, then it sloped downwards dropping about 2 feet, i have never seen this before and have no idea what it actually was, the film is a bit grainy, but you can definatly see its shape, even the commentry on the film clip said, "it was a strange loco", any ideas ? or speculation?
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Leader didn't have a tender. Can you take a pic of the screen? Even a bad one would give us an idea of what it looks like.
English Electric GT3?
David
David
QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 26 Jun 2008, 12:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>English Electric GT3?
David
It was most probably GT3, as Cricklewood was the main shed for the southern end of the GCR main line. which GT3 was running on, at the time.
Paul M.
David
It was most probably GT3, as Cricklewood was the main shed for the southern end of the GCR main line. which GT3 was running on, at the time.
Paul M.
It is definatly a steam loco, and not the leader, i am trying to grab a still from from the film, that i now have on disc, as soon as i do this i will post it, i got a gut feeling it is a Q1, but it looks quite large.
'Tender' doesn't sound like GT3s to me, thought it was quite high all down the length.
It could be a Q1, they worked on cross-London freights.
PM
PM
My only picture of the GT3, taken at an exhibition at Marylebone Goods Yard (1959?), shows this as a sort of streamlined 4-6-4? On the front of the off-side there is an area of grille work which may help to identify it. It had a tender but I've no picture of that, alas.
Sorry I can't be of any greater help.
Regards,
John Webb
Sorry I can't be of any greater help.
Regards,
John Webb
Thanks for the link to the picture and information. It confirms that the exhibition I went to was in 1959. Unfortunately it was in my very early days of photography and I forgot to wind on the film so my two shots of GT3 are on the same negative! Cabbed Mallard, a 2-10-0 (not Evening Star, alas), GT3, 1000 (Midland Compound), E3059, 71000 Duke of Gloucester, Peak Class D28, D867 Zenith, D5699 and D8400, if I've translated the notes in my 1962 ABC correctly!
Regards,
John
Regards,
John
QUOTE (John Webb @ 6 Jul 2008, 19:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My only picture of the GT3, taken at an exhibition at Marylebone Goods Yard (1959?), shows this as a sort of streamlined 4-6-4? On the front of the off-side there is an area of grille work which may help to identify it. It had a tender but I've no picture of that, alas.
It was actually a 4-6-0, I believe using a set of standar BR standard 5 frames.
Regards
It was actually a 4-6-0, I believe using a set of standar BR standard 5 frames.
Regards
Yes, I can see now it was a 4-6-0 from the other pictures mentioned above; it was the double exposure on my film which made it look as if there were bogies front and rear!
Regards,
John
Regards,
John
By coincidence, there is a colour photo of GT3 on page 18 of the August Hornby Magazine (Issue 14) in connection with the announcement by Golden Arrow Productions of a 4mm scale resin body kit of GT3. It fits a Hornby 'Black 5' chassis.
Regards,
John Webb
Regards,
John Webb
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