That looks good. Not knwing what the prototype looks like I can't comment on accuracy, but it looks tempting.

 

I have to admit it looks like it was worth the wait.

Regards

 

I've solved the brake block conundrum. I'm going to buy one, remove the wheels and use it as a grounded store.

 

Brake blocks hung from the springs surely not, just looks wrong, tell me thats not the final position of them. Apart from that looks a good model.

 

The lower hinge is missing from the guards door, the door handles are pretty pathetic, as are the end steps and electrical jumpers. No doubt since this is a pre-production shot these items will be attended to. It might be wise also to provide separate mouldings for the controversial brake shoes and hangers which you could slot into the floor and possibly glue in place. Apart from that it is a nice reproduction of the Stove 'R' which should sell well, though my experience with my etched kit suggests that this vehicle is not all that popular. A re-run last year of my etched Stove'R' only got 12 customers. The price will be the determining factor and we have no news on that point so far.

A Wright
'5522' Models

 

Further comments on looking through my photo collection: Stoves as built did not have a clip for a destination label, nor the little brackets for a destination board - these brackets appear only on bogie brakes . The clip seems to be an addition on one of the preserved ones which just shows how dangerous it is to model preserved stock. The roof vents on D2000 were shell and not the torpedo type which were used only on the earlier D1796 version. All small points, but there is a bigger fault. The droplights are practically non-existent on this test shot. Hopefully all these things will be fixed - you might as well get it right before you go into volume production. The D1796 variant has a different roof as well as vents, but is essentially the same vehicle. It would look great in the fully lined pre 1928 livery!

 

I understand that Hornby magazine has no direct connection with Hornby, being published by Ian Allan, though presumably Hornby has given permission for the name to be used. So far so good just about, as Hornby doesn't produce magazines.

However the magazine is now commissioning rolling stock from a competing manuacturer, effectively selling under the Hornby name. Confusing or what?

 

Looks like a nice model to me, but the brake blocks hanging off the springs are completely wrong!

I thought brake block alignment issues had been solved back in the early 90's ? In this instance, they are not even in the right place for P4!

Graham Plowman

 

I have ordered one in BR Maroon. I am sure that it will be a very pleasing model and very acceptable. With regard to the etched brass kit only selling 12, perhaps that that is not up to standards required by current modellers and then you have to paint it yourself. That alone puts many off with todays high standard of factory finishes.

 

QUOTE (Vespa @ 21 Oct 2010, 21:52) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>With regard to the etched brass kit only selling 12, perhaps that that is not up to standards required by current modellers
I'd have to diagree with this statement. I've seen one of these kits made up and painted and they are quite outstanding.
I would agree with you on the point of the average modeller not achieving the same standard of finish and shying away from etched brass construction. This is more likely the cause of the re-run of the kit only selling 12.
The only reason that the ready to run model is being produced for Hornby magazine by Dapol is that there was enough interest shown to support the project.

 

Thanks for the plug Manfred. I have a few more of the kit in stock if anyone wants to get a Stove 'R' with a complete set of brakegear (with a choice of placement to suit 00 EM and P4). I agree that having to paint it is a chore, but it will still shout 'Hurray" at any plastic version believe me. Etchings are always crisper than any plastic no matter how well moulded, and the Dapol version is certainly very well moulded indeed. It's horses for courses here - if you only need one Stove a kit might be the better option.

Alistair

 

Everyone's a critic - I think as a model, it's very nice. I will certainly be interested if the price is right.

There's a good review of it in my latest Model Rail mag. Sounds like there's going to be lots of Liveries to choose from.

 

I'm waiting to see when it's out before making up weather to but but looking at that picture I looks like my hand will be going in my pocket

 

"I'm waiting to see when it's out before making up weather to but but looking at that picture I looks like my hand will be going in my pocket "

Just like snow wrong sort of

 

QUOTE (mossi @ 8 Nov 2010, 19:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"I'm waiting to see when it's out before making up weather to but but looking at that picture I looks like my hand will be going in my pocket "

Just like snow wrong sort of

Oops funny enough it raining sleet as I type.

 

First of all, hello to everyone. I had forgotten I was a member (shame on me) and actually joined almost 3 years ago. Some techno and health problems kept me out this year but I'm here now.

Forums have made us all aware of the 12mm wheels and short footboards, and so I built an etched brass kit to see why 14mm wheels were seemingly out of the question. In good faith I followed my initial interest in the Hornby Magazine Stove and placed an order, having already decided to built it a new chassis.

However, posted images show the lining is in the wrong positions on the LMS 1930's livery. This innocent little model is turning into quite a challenge....

 

Welcome back. Taking a holiday from RMWeb are we? Which etched kit did you build, there are two options? When you say the lining is in the wrong place where did you see a painted Dapol model? So far all I've seen are the plastic unpainted prototypes.

This Stove 'R' saga seems to get more complicated as time goes on. The chassis is clearly compromised in two areas which is a great pity because it is just as easy to get things right as wrong and I had hoped that in these more enlightened times silly errors could and would be avoided. In the bad old days the accountants were usually responsible for compromises (the Lima GUV is a classic example of this) but if you look at the new Hornby LMS coaches you can see that they have been kept well away from the design teams and a superb product is the result. Has anyone noticed that the two bogie versions (welded and riveted) are different? The longer springs on the welded ones are correctly modelled. Astonishing! And the correct bogies are under the correct diagrams.

 

QUOTE Which etched kit did you build, there are two options? When you say the lining is in the wrong place where did you see a painted Dapol model? Hi, I built the Comet 'Stove' but on one of my own floorpans. Regarding te Dapol 'Stove', images of a painted version were seen on RMweb recently. I think they were taken at a recent model railway exhibition.

There are two prominent horizontal beading strips on the earlier diagram, which Dapol has replicated on the model, however, whereas the LMS put the lining above the cantrail beading and below the waist beading, Dapol has applied it on the beading.