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All the indications are that regular lined LNER green would have been used. Garter blue was express streamliner to match the Coronation and West Riding service, and also looked good with the 'Silver Bullet' and regular LNER teak and Pullman stock.

Not too pretty a combination with Tourist stock, so the V2s could carry a livery to match those. ;)
 
Discussion starter · #283 ·
Shires and Hunts. Currently the Hornby Railroad D49 is the only model of the class available. However the current version produced is inaccurate in that it depicts a Hunt class with rotary cam valve gear, the model having Walschaerts valve gear and other detail differences. The model is almost dimensionally correct as compared to a scale drawing. I took an earlier tender drive Shire 62700 body and fitted to the Railroad loco drive chassis. Being able to get tenders as spares from Bachmann I have ordered an ex GCR tender which I intend to attach and rename and renumber as 62714 Perthshire. The Hunt is currently on the non powered chassis from the Shire and is an unpowered Dummy but again I have plans when I can get another loco drive mechanism to properly convert to rotary cam valve gear.
I also have THE MORPETH which I converted from a Hunt class. One item of note is that the Shire doesn't have boiler band lining and looking at photos I wonder if this was omitted in some cases..
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...One item of note is that the Shire doesn't have boiler band lining and looking at photos I wonder if this was omitted in some cases...
You can safely enough bet on a D49, someplace, sometime, having run with the boiler bands unlined while carrying the BR early crest. Photographic proof might not be available...

Is your 'Morpeth' in the Thompson rebuild inside cylinder form?
 
Discussion starter · #286 · (Edited)
Next job is to modify D49 the Cotswold to represent the correct valve gear. I found a stepped tender body made up from a whitemetal kit in my spare tenders box so it is being refurbished and the Cotswold will become 62743 The Cleveland which was the only rotary cam valve gear D49 at Haymarket.
 
Just re read your whole thread SJ

Time well spent, and lite a small spark to get some time back at my bench

I too have a draw full of GBLM bodies and have also started (and paused) a streamlined V2, and think you might of provided the line drawing
 
Discussion starter · #291 ·
The conversion involved removing the 14 pin board from the Bachmann tender but leaving the pickup wires intact and enlarging the hole in the chassis floor so that the 8 pin board from the Hornby tender could be passed through. The two pickup wires from the Bachmann tender were then soldered into the 8 pin board. The drawbar pin on the tender was bushed with plastic tube to deepen it and increase the diameter so that satisfactory coupling between engine and tender were achieved.
 
Discussion starter · #294 ·
A fair amount of cutting away of the front of the chassis is needed and the footplate needs shortening at the front below the smokebox by 4mm. The cylinders (Hornby Grange) are fixed in place using the same screw that held the Star cylinders in place with extension made in plastic to hold them down. The smokebox saddle had to be remade and the outside steam pipes came off a spare 43XX body suitably shortened.
 
Discussion starter · #296 ·
The Saint David name and number plates were recovered from my original Saint conversion which involved the attachment of a Hornby old style Hall boiler to an Airfix Castle running plate and a stratch built cab plus cylinders obtained from something else. I did the same to get a Star. They both had the dreadful AIrfix mechanism in the tender so had to be replaced in due course.
 
...Armoured WD 2-8-0.
Practicalities.
That's going to do more damage to the track than the enemy will inflict, due to the greatly increased weight.
Exhaust clearance will be very poor, as due to the flush chimney much of it will be entrained in the low pressure airflow over the casing.

There was operational research in WWII on disabling railway transport, and to significantly damage steam locomotives by air gunnery required 20mm rounds to pierce the boiler shell, because it was thick steel, typically presenting a sloped surface, and supported by the pressure inside against deformation. It was the crew that needed additional protection: from the UK perspective sheet steel replacing side windows; and from an allied perspective 'not the target' in the occupied countries. And then it turned out that there was a much cheaper and more effective method available on the ground, not requiring expensive air missions.
 
Discussion starter · #300 ·
There were three proposals worked up by Vulcan Foundry and the NIU models kit represents one of them. I added the armour plating to the tender sides. By D day however the Allies had gained air supremacy and the modifications were not considered necessary. I had a spare WD chassis which had been acquired with a view to creating another 2-10-0 and the fact one can now buy spare tenders (albeit chassis and body separate) from Bachmann Spares, plus a spare body from Fleabay I was able to create the beastie. It will be fun to terrorise the MRGs OO layout at times!
 
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